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More info about it here: https://www.ghacks.net/2024/08/13/windows-11-start-menu-is-getting-a-new-layout-to-organize-your-apps/
I love how microsoft never learns their lessons.
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Oh cool, good to see the power button is still on the other side of the fucking menu. You know, the thing that I'm clicking on 90% of the time I'm opening the Start Menu? Why have that easily reachable like in past versions of Windows? Silly me I guess.
This isn't the first time Microsoft has done this, I remember this being a huge gripe for me with Windows 8/8.1
Hey that was when they thought it was also a smart idea to force that shit tablet view on users...
And they did it on Windows Server too, which made even less sense.
Don't your servers run on phones?
You mean you didn't use touch screen monitors on your servers?
I didn't mind it actually. Like I don't mind the GNOME overview or whatever the thing that comes up when you press Meta is called
i love the workflow of gnome, it takes time to get used to but its really nice
Gnome is still a bit quirky to me and I've been running it on my latest install. I still don't get their idea of by default, without extensions, how I'm supposed to use software that requires a tray icon to use.
I guess the difference is that the Gnome overview has been thought out amazingly, has a fantastic search function that actually works, and Gnome takes heavy advantage of their superb implementation of workspaces (virtual desktops).
Gnome doesn't really feel designed for tablets, it feels designed for everything. Hot corners, large click targets, and having good keyboard shortcuts makes it feel good on a desktop, amazing trackpad gestures make it feel at home on a laptop.
Win8 had options scattered everywhere, a search that was just starting to turn bad, and initially did silly things like only let you use one app at a time, no matter your screen size. It was forcing a tablet UX that just felt wrong on a PC.
I think Microsoft were hoping thin and light foldable/tablet devices (that were all the rage at that point) were a good way to sell more windows licenses (thin and lights are weaker hardware so will likely need updated more to keep up with performance demands), hinges are weak points so hardware will be replaced more, all meaning more licenses sold. They were trying to force Windows down this path, IMO. When that failed, they turned to much greater data harvesting, ads, etc.
Come on, it's totally intuitive! Just put your mouse in the top right corner, off the screen, and swipe down to make the "charms" bar slide out from the side.
Wait, what?
Strangly this UI always reminds me of the hospital scene from Idiocracy... Click the icon for where it hurts
With Windows 8, they all hurt.
Uh THIS one goes in your mouth
… wait, no.
Yeach the ui sucked, kinda sucked. I actually kinda liked it on 8.1 . But the one thing windows 8 did right was efficiency. I still remember my update from windows 8 to 10 when witcher 3 on my laptop went from barerly playbale to unplaybale. Sad story.
I found the same and I daily drove Windows 8.1 with OpenShell to the very end of support.
Then you wouldn't notice all the fun and exciting recommendations they have for you! /s
Right click the start button instead
If they didn't take that away.
Just wait. At the rate they're going it won't be long before you're forced to sit through a 30 second full screen ad in order to even open the start menu.
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not yet, they haven't.
I was about to comment this. And to anyone saying they are taking that away we all know how bad they are at removing legacy options so I'm sure this will be here until at least windows 14.
genuine question, why do you click that button? Why not use the physical button on the device?
Software shutdown button presser chiming in.
There's two reasons I tend to use the software button. I know for a fact that clicking "Shut Down" will actually shut down the computer. If I press the hardware button, the computer usually is configured by default to sleep. Yes, I could change this default behaviour on all the devices I use, but then there's the second reason:
From a psychological perspective, I tend to associate the hardware button as a "only use if system is locked up" button.
Yep, if you're in charge of managing hundreds of computers, you don't want to guess at what it'll do. We have our defaults but also have people who make exceptions depending on their own work needs. Tbh, I rarely use that button anyhow though, I right click on the start menu to get that menu instead and use shutdown, restart, or log out.
Further reason, the physical button isn't always in a location that's convenient to push. Sure it's usually accessible, but sometimes it's under a desk or behind a monitor or some other awkward location. Mouse and keyboard by their nature are always located in a conveniently accessible location.
I'm sitting at my desk and my computer tower is out of reach unless I get up and reach over. Gotta showcase that RGB
Win+X > U > U
Shuts down your machine with no mouse required, use U > R if you wanna restart
This is the way
I just Alt + F4 from the desktop or just press the power button. I always change it to regular old shutdown.
agree on the power button change, unless you have little kids, in which case the button should just be disabled.
I saw other people mentioning managing multiple computers in an offise space. I wouldn't trust that everybody wound configure the power button action.
i don't understand what you mean exactly
Sometimes people manage other computers so it's not practical to configure all of them and you can't trust what people have configured for the power button
Power options: sleep after 5 minutes
Power button action: shutdown
You're welcome
Alt+F4
Sorry if you already know but if you can also do win+x to get to shutdown menu
Win+x, u, u shuts down.
Pressing Alt + F4 on the desktop brings up the Shutdown menu. You can fully navigate it using the keyboard. Back in my Windows times I found this more convenient than using the start menu.
Oof, that's a very good point.