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[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (41 children)

Sadly, this is actually true, people actually don't know simple math and operation order.

And they ask me why I hold such low expectations for the future 🤦.

[–] rubythulhu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 2 years ago (30 children)

To be fair, it’s completely arbitrary, and all of math would be easier to understand, although slightly more verbose, if the only rule of order of operations is “always use parentheses to denote order, there are no implied parentheses”.

lazy mfs from centuries ago who were mortified by the thought of having to write ( and ) too much (lord what i wouldn’t give to hop in a time machine and show them lisp) should not be dictating our mathematical notation in this century. Explicit grouping is always more obvious to the reader.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

To be clear, it's the standard order of operations (PEMDAS) that is arbitrary. The expression in the post, assuming PEMDAS, is not arbitrary. There's only one correct answer.

Also, I dunno man. The window from where math is complicated enough to have multiple different operators to where expressions get too complicated to be easily readable with just parentheses to denote order should be passed by like, early to mid highschool, if not junior high. Point being, frankly if you're struggling with PEMDAS, your either still a high schooler, or you probably should be.

Or we can all learn polish notation

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago

By the end of highschool you've mostly stop dealing with numbers and moved on to algebra, which foregoes the confusion of PEMDAS. a+bc is very obvious.

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