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[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (62 children)

I don’t understand or care about your question.

No subject of this conversation is saying “gosh, I get my information from sources which disagree with the Chinese governments official statements”.

The thing referenced in the modlog was a couple of people saying you can’t even talk about tiannamen square in China, which is false.

The reason why I would call it sinophobic is that that statement reifies the lie that Chinese people don’t understand their own history, wouldn’t defend themselves against an unjust government and would simply accept not being allowed to discuss events that happened in their living memory or else suffer punishment.

It would be like suggesting that my American government won’t let me talk about January 6 or I’ll be thrown in prison, except that there’s not the context of centuries of imperialist racist propaganda painting Americans as fundamentally lazy and subservient owing to our skull shape.

Which is what would make claiming Americans can’t talk about January sixth false, but not racist.

And it’s what makes claiming Chinese people can’t talk about tiannamen square false and racist. Since we’re talking about Chinese people, sinophobic.

The thing that makes those stereotypes racist is that during the British empires rule over parts of China and the period of time when the west as a whole received a big Chinese diaspora (using the broadest language possible here to include literal slavery), those stereotypes were used to justify mistreatment of Chinese and other people based on their race.

I don’t think it makes someone necessarily a Nazi when they say racist stuff, but it’s important to recognize.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don’t understand or care about your question.

Way to turn OPs meme into a slam-fucking-dunk.

Turn around and find a new thread if you're not gonna honestly communicate with others 👌

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No thank you.

That person asked the question I replied to and a much longer series in what seems like an attempt to debate me about if it’s sinophobic to disagree with the Chinese government, an idea I never expressed or even hinted at.

I don’t understand why they would try to do that and I don’t care about it.

How, in any way, is that turning the ops meme, which relies on holding western neoliberal governments and communist or socialist governments to a different set of standards regarding violence, into a slam dunk?

[–] Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it’s sinophobic to disagree with the Chinese government, an idea I never expressed or even hinted at.

You said the claim that "people can't talk about TS" is sinophobic. But even a five year could follow that the reason proposed for that inability to talk is the actions of the government. So, saying it's sinophobic to claim you can't talk about TS is saying it's sinophobic to disagree with the actions of the Chinese government.

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

I responded to you in my reply to your other reply to me.

Just trying to keep this more on topic and easy to follow.

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