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[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Can we put that misinformation to bed, please? Her birthday is before the election, which by definition is before inauguration day. Unless you think she's going to suddenly Benjamin Button, she meets the qualification.

[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

I have amended my OG comment with the proper information! Thanks for politely pointing out the factual mistake I made.

[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Unfortunately, this is spreading misinformation, sorry guys.

https://www.usa.gov/requirements-for-presidential-candidates

To even run for president, not just be president, you are required to be 35.

Edit: to add the missing information above that I forgot to add... If she chose to, since there is no cutoff date for putting in your Candidancy, when she turns 35 on Oct 13, she could at that very moment run for president. But she cannot run until then.

[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

To be put on the ballot to BE elected you need to be 35. What are you talking about misinformation?

Edit: you can't declare Candidancy without being 35. Stop spreading misinformation.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S1-C5-1/ALDE_00013692/

A similar reason why you can't vote if you turn 18 before the day of an election, as you wouldn't fall under the timeframe required to be registered; she can't register because she isn't 35, regardless IF she would be 35 before the inauguration.

I showed my proof, now show me yours. I'm willing to change my views if I am wrong but people down voting me without providing evidence means you are just as wrong as I am.

Not trying to start a fight or argument. I do not want to "spread misinformation" so please prove me wrong so I can learn and we can all move on.

Edit: found the exact wording that proves you guys wrong: https://www.usa.gov/requirements-for-presidential-candidates

As I stated in my original comment, to even be a candidate to run for president you must be 35.

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're misinterpreting the simplified version of Article II, Section 1, Clause 5. I don't know if it's by way of malice or of ignorance, but the end result is that you're confidently wrong.

The requirements set forth in the Constitution say nothing about any arbitrary cutoff date to gain ballot access. Don't believe me or the Constitution?

How about The Hill:

"First: Yes, she is old enough to run. The minimum age to be president is 35. Ocasio-Cortez will celebrate her 35th birthday roughly three weeks before Election Day 2024."

Or maybe you will believe it from Oliver Willis:

"Can she run? AOC was born on October 13, 1989, which would make her 35 years old on November 5, 2024, which will be election day. To run for president, the Constitution requires a candidate to be 35 years old or older. AOC would be constitutionally eligible to run for president in that year."

If those don't tickle your fancy, how about Fox News:

"However, Ocasio-Cortez would be eligible to serve as president or vice president in the 2024 campaign cycle, narrowly making the age cutoff. She will have turned 35 by Inauguration Day on January 20, 2025."

If you still need further sources, maybe ABC can provide both information and precedent for you:

"Does the age rule apply from election day, or inauguration day?

It applies on inauguration day — which these days is usually January 20, in the year following the election.

That means a candidate can campaign in a primary race, be nominated as their party's candidate, and even be elected to the presidency at 34 years old — as long as they'll be 35 by the date they take office.

Back in the 1972 election, one virtually unknown Delawarean senator-elect reached this age minimum by the tightest of margins.

Joe Biden was 29 when he was elected, and had just turned 30 by the time he was sworn in."

She's eligible, and you're propagating a lie whether you intend to or not.

[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I was not aware of those points. Thanks for providing evidence! While a bit salty and accusatory as I was literally going by the USA.gov's website.

So, can we please fix the USA.gov incorrect information now?

Edit: wait I was right she could run as all I said was she can't run as in right this second. She needs to be 35 and yes that would mean by Oct 13th as there is no cutoff date. So guess we were both right. Awesome.

Have a great day!