No seriously, I'd hate to be in the risk assessment side here. Do you try to provoke an attack by going anyway? So that you have an excuse to respond in full force?

[–] maporita@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Turkey won't allow military ships to pass the Bosporus in any direction while there's a war on. This prevents Russia from reinforcing their Black Sea fleet but also prevents Western navies from entering.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

If the West decided to go hot, Turkey not letting western navies into the Black Sea wouldn't really make a difference to the continued existence of the Black Sea fleet

[–] DanglingFury@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I feel like everytime someone "closes" a section of sea the US sends a carrier group right on through just to prove a point. I'm sure this is different because turkey is a tasty bird often served at Thanksgiving.

[–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the geography of the Bosporus would give the fleet inside the Black Sea an advantage over those attempting to enter. Those attempting to enter would need air support to soften up defenses before sailing the strait

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If the USA actually wanted to get into the Black Sea, there is literally no power on Earth that could stop that from happening.

[–] SpicyPeaSoup@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Mf forgot about the Mongolian navy.

[–] lntl@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

Awhile I expect the same as you do David triumphed over Goliath and the Football Giants defeated the Patriots in Super Bowl XLII. It would be a messy campaign.

[–] kingthrillgore@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Except for one: Russia's nuclear arsenal. We have to assume it is at wartime readiness despite the rest of their military being second best to Wagner.

[–] sethboy66@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

The difference between peacetime and wartime readiness for nukes only relates to tactical nukes; at least when it comes to an competent nuclear power, nuke are always at the ready at a moments notice. They launch nukes, we launch in retaliation, major destruction spread out over large swaths of land, both sides nuclear capabilities are gone (other than subs that were already deployed and didn't launch their payload). U.S. sails into the Black Sea.

Nukes aren't designed to stop navies.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago

Like the t14 armata?

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

So the whole merchant fleet needs to fly Turkish flags and get a Turkish navy escort then.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social -5 points 2 years ago

Sounds like what you're saying is Ukraine needs more droneboats to clear Russia off the Black Sea.

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