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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 248 points 1 year ago (45 children)

Even if he goes full and permanent vegetable, he's still not Trump. Top priority is stopping Orange Hitler from taking control again, so please for the love of human rights, vote for whoever has the the best shot at beating him - if that's Biden, cool. If it's Harris, cool. If it's a literal ham sandwich, fucking fine - all three are orders of magnitude more qualified to do the job then Trump.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 63 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Yeah, I'll vote blue... But get this fucker off the ticket. I'd much rather it be Kamala, or like... Nearly anyone really.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yeah, the question isn't who Democrats will vote for. It's who independents will vote for. And there are a lot of independents.

Relying on the "Never Trump" vote to win this election feels like a terrible risk.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We don't have democracy anymore.

First, the SCOTUS ruling did away with that last week, but let's ignore that for now...

We have a fascist authoritarian in charge who refuses to even consider stepping down until he dies - certainly he is not going to let the people decide who gets to be the Democratic nominee - vs. someone who will become a dictator for life and do the same, but somehow much, MUCH worse.

I hope that many people vote Blue No Matter Who... yet I fear that many independents won't.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think you realise what a fascist authoritarian is my lad.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a bit hyperbolic in this context, yet also technically accurate in a surprising number of ways, though mostly I was focusing on how he won't allow an election to determine who gets to be the Democratic nominee. Also, he has the legal ability to murder his opponents, and is both supporting (in Gaza) even while also decrying (in Ukraine) genocide. Anyway, the point is that he is suppressing opposition (from within his own party, by not allowing a debate about who may replace him), which yes he has the legal ability to do, fwiw. So he is not much of one perhaps, but has some characteristics not entirely dissimilar to one.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah those observations are fair. Regardless now I'm afraid Trump has sealed his win with this shooting. His voters are going to be mobilised like never before for the election

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

Hrm, so he wasn't seriously injured, and the outcome ends in his favor, hrm... I see.

And Biden's administration ends up looking weaker than ever before, for allowing it to happen. I hate politics.:-(

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