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[โ€“] polonius-rex@kbin.run 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

We have committed more genocide

by what metric?

total number of genocides participated in, maybe..?

but the state isn't building death camps, and if you compare the death toll in Palestine to those in Nazi Germany it's a stark difference

exploiting workers to death for economic benefit is very objectionably inexcusable, but by definition not genocide, and by attempting to reposition it as such you're lessening the definition of genocide rather than helping the plight of those abused by capitalism

yes, i think allowing the machine of capitalism to churn through lives incidentally is at least marginally better than building a machine specifically designed to churn through as many lives as possible in as short a window as possible

very obviously neither should be happening at all, and the fact either is is frankly disgusting, but you were the one who decided to directly compare them

and are currently more fascistic than Nazi Germany.

again, the fact you're able to type this is proof that it's false

[โ€“] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I don't argue with genocide deniers

[โ€“] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Native Americans

Latinx immigrants

Palestinians

Sudanese

Jewish people

Working class people

Asian people

Many Central and South American groups

You are being ignorant by asking "by what metric" for a nation founded on genocide

[โ€“] polonius-rex@kbin.run 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jewish people

you're comparing the us's genocide to nazi germany and jewish people were the ones you chose to bring up?

[โ€“] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. We have been worse than Nazi Germany. Objectively. Do you deny historical facts?

[โ€“] polonius-rex@kbin.run 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh no it's time for circles

please qualify what you mean by "objectively worse than nazi germany"

thank you

[โ€“] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have exterminated more people and we continue to discriminate against more marginalized groups. (E.g., 70% of Americans believe there is a "border crisis" and support the Palestinian genocide)

[โ€“] polonius-rex@kbin.run 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have exterminated more people

the numbers don't back this up

continue to discriminate against more marginalized groups

"nazi germany was so bad it doesn't exist anymore so they can't continue to discriminate" isn't a very good argument

[โ€“] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You deny the genocide the US has committed against indigenous and other non-white groups?

Y I K E S

You're worse than a "tankie"

[โ€“] polonius-rex@kbin.run 5 points 1 year ago

literally no part of my reply was denying genocide that the us has participated in

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