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[โ€“] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Yes, they have. And therefore should be re-empowered ASAP. It is YOU who appears to be arguing that they are not up to the task, not me.

[โ€“] polonius-rex@kbin.run 12 points 1 year ago (14 children)

i'm saying they're not up to the task without significant support from some hypothetical party backing them up

i don't know what party you'd put in that position if not the current government, and at that point it seems like we're back to the start, no?

[โ€“] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (13 children)

So you're saying they're not up to the task unless some [white majority party] supports them?

So again I say, YIKES

[โ€“] polonius-rex@kbin.run 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

super weird that the abused aren't in a position of power, and that the abusers are

yeah, the party in power is majority white, and yeah that's because of historic racism, but that doesn't change the scenario that we're both looking at

[โ€“] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah so weird that you support white saviorism instead of returning control to indigenous groups.

It's almost like you're a liberal centrist.

[โ€“] polonius-rex@kbin.run 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

what's your plan for returning power to indigenous people without involving a group that's currently in power (and therefore predominantly white, since racism exists), without having right wing populists use the power vacuum to seize control?

[โ€“] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just return it now. You think only white people are good enough to save them?

Racist.

[โ€“] polonius-rex@kbin.run 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

again, a group of people that's been oppressed to the degree native americans have is not in a position to govern a nation like america

do you deny the oppression that native americans have faced?

[โ€“] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[โ€“] polonius-rex@kbin.run 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i'm not the one sitting here denying that native americans face and have faced racial abuse at the hands of society

you're literally using the right-wing tactic of "you're acknowledging racism therefore you're racist"

No, you're being racist because you're making demeaning blanket statements about Native people

[โ€“] bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My local indian office can barely send out checks, they couldn't just shoulder all government responsibilities. Stop saying bullshit

[โ€“] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't believe all the racists who are going mask-off about Native people in the comments jfc

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds

[โ€“] bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh cut the crap. You've basically said, "I've read the hashtag land back. Why don't we just saddle Soaring Eagle here with the entire country's sewage maintenance. They got that old shaman wisdom, they'll figure it out." Stop putting problems on others like it's a gift, indians got enough shit to deal with without your out of touch nonsense.

[โ€“] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I - I'm just

This is wildly racist

[โ€“] bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Well I hope you stop saying such patronizing racist slop, I really don't appreciate natives being used as a petty wedge in internet slap fights. Have some perspective and don't just attribute magical capabilities to people you obviously know nothing about.

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