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[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (63 children)

Im sorry, im just not getting this.

You're worried about someone who says some dumb things when the other choice is a convicted felon, known sexual abuser, who's actively fighting the democracy you stand for and first act as non-president was to try overthrow your government.

Trump should be in prison or hung, and you're comparing him to someone who says dumb things. TRUMP IS A THREAT TO HUMAN RIGHTS, GLOBAL STABILITY AND THE FUTURE OF FUCKING HUMANITY.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

And Biden enables genocide, among a lifetime history of right wing views such as fighting for segregation.

Trump and Biden are not good options.

People should be furious the Dems allowed him to be in this position today, not sucking it up and pushing harder for it.

[–] Gsus4@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you insist in framing it that way, know that it comes with the job of being US president https://chomsky.info/1990____-2/

If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged.

and Biden is far from the worst in the war crime enabler list, considering he has to deter the most fascist Israeli government ever...

So...go vote for the least bad option that disempowers you the least.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Instead of voting for war criminals, how about not?

You don’t fill in a hole by taking a lesser amount of dirt out. Likewise you don’t fix the system by voting for the lesser evil.

[–] Gsus4@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did you see Chomsky's list? All presidents eventually become war criminals, even if it is by complicit passivity, even that "saint" Jimmy Carter (because of allowing Indonesia to proceed with genocide in East Timor).

By that standard, even Chomsky as president would have been a war criminal if he had just made a deal to allow Ukraine to be invaded by russia with impunity.

You get nothing for your cause by letting trump win. Nothing. And you will lose on lots of fronts that affect you personally, including protest, which at least allows you to control the israelis a little bit.

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