History Memes

I don’t really mind loyalists. There’s not some great moral difference between them and the revolutionaries like there was between unionists and confederates. Both were, deep down, fighting for their own best interests.

I agree, at least to a degree. There's a right side and wrong side to the argument, but it's not the kind of stark moral contrast the way there is between Unionists and Confederates. It's more of a "Are you really so uncreative as to be unable to see that being ruled without a say in your own governance is some feudal shite?" than a "Jesus fuck you are fighting for the worst institution known to man."

It’s not like the property and slave owning founders were particularly concerned about anybody’s oppression but their own.

4 out of the 7 Founding Fathers were staunch abolitionists (Jay, Franklin, Hamilton, Adams). 1 became an abolitionist later in life (Washington). 1 turned against slavery half-heartedly (Jefferson). Only one was an ideological slaver (Madison).