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[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe we should not have a political system that one party can apparently singlehandedly end?

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

do you think that might happen by not voting for biden?

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you think it will if you do? How does kicking the can down the road another four years help anything? These past four years led us right back to where we were in 2016, and 2020.

If I saw a person as an existential threat to my government, I never would have funded their primary effort in the first place.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

seriously? "kicking the can" is worse than having another trump presidency? ok... do what you will. i hope you feel good about yourself, voting against biden once we're living under a textbook definition of dictatorship

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

I've actually been voting for Trump my entire life, an infinite number of times, by never voting in a US election.

[–] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm going to disagree with my fellow Hexbear above and state that we're not even kicking the can with Biden. The progression towards fascism doesn't pause when a Democrat is in the chair. It continues the same just with different abstractions as the reasoning.

This exact thing happened under Trump. He fired people and kept a tighter inner-circle. If you're really honest you'll find Biden doing a lot of the same stuff Trump did.

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

(this is a true and correct take)

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

It's more like "kicking the can uphill and then the can rolls back down to our feet."

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We were told to vote for Biden last time to avoid a genocide (✖️) to get kids out of cages (✖️) to stop the border wall (✖️) to stop Trumps racist immigration policy (✖️) to protect queer people (✖️) to protect abortion rights (✖️) to take climate seriously (✖️) to handle covid (✖️) to "believe science" (✖️) to have competent foreign policy (✖️) to stop the polices violent handling of protestors (✖️) to defund the police or at least stop giving them more money (✖️)

Voting for a democrat is just, at best, voting for last elections republican, but without public opposition. Voting legitimises power and a vote for Biden makes him believe he's right to ignore his promises and instead go full on police state.

Now we're being browbeat with the threat of "democracy being destroyed" by a man Biden has had 4 years to do something about, yet hadn't.

[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why dont your guys execute every single republican politician, if they are seeking to destroy democracy, they need to be destroyed before they win right

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

If they ran on that platform, i may consider vote ing myself. They'd be executing half the people we need to execute

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Ok so if Trump is going to kill democracy, why allow him to be president? This seems like a very silly idea.

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have a solution that doesn't require Democrats to win control of the Executive and the Legislature in every American election for the rest of time?

I thought liberals tended to oppose single party political systems.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

revolution

are you volunteering?

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

"we have to vote for the senile genocider who keeps giving more money to the military and police forces who would violently crush any proletarian revolution."

"I support a workers revolution"

You are deeply unserious.

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, now I am very confused. Have you bought your gun yet? You should probably be posting here and not arguing with us.

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

LOL uprising in this country is even less likely than biden handling a debate. good luck though

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

Do you recognize that you have no solution to any of these problems and are really just acting out to feel like you have some kind of agency in a system that is not meaningfully democratic in any way?

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Really!? You go right to the edge of being correct, then flip back to pure liberalism (The Zeroth type!).

We stand for active ideological struggle because it is the weapon for ensuring unity within the Party and the revolutionary organizations in the interest of our fight. Every Communist and revolutionary should take up this weapon.

But liberalism rejects ideological struggle and stands for unprincipled peace, thus giving rise to a decadent, Philistine attitude and bringing about political degeneration in certain units and individuals in the Party and the revolutionary organizations.