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[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean it's pretty clear that at least some of his staff orchestrated this failure to create a window of opportunity to replace him. If he's going to hang on until death claims him, then yeah he needs to purge some folks

which would be pretty funny, the last people in the administration with even a glancing familiarity with reality forced out so the lich king can cling to power with his bony fingers all the way to the gates of hell

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this is probably true. It is a very common tactic in dysfunctional organizations (that I've even employed myself a few times). When someone is being incredibly obstinate and heading down a path you know leads to disaster, sometimes all you can do is switch to a cheerleader encouraging them to rush headlong off the nearest cliff. Then nobody can ignore the crash and there is the opportunity to build something better from the wreckage.

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nobody could have thought Biden would do well at 9 PM, agreeing to that time slot is prima facie evidence of sabotage

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

and for the record, since we've apparently got some semi-literates hanging around today, sabotaging Biden is probably the only cool/good thing the responsible staffers have ever done in their lives

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The thing is debates are always at 9 eastern, because that's 6 on the west coast, and allows people to get home and turn it on after work. You can't do it any earlier unless it's on a Saturday, and then in the fall you're competing against college football

Edit: the move here is to do it on west coast time and do a weeklong tour of mountain states to try to get his sleep schedule shifted earlier

You know, like a toddler

[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

I mean it's pretty clear that at least some of his staff orchestrated this failure to create a window of opportunity to replace him.

I am very weary of giving credit to people who are consistently wrong about everything and always showing signs of incompetence.

It doesn't have to be the result of a scheme, rather the simplest explanation is they really believed their own BS and those people standing up now are just opportunists that never liked Biden in the first place.

There is also maybe just the fact they're just too embarrassed now, you can't complain about all the silly Trump antics, covfefe or sex with porn actors and then having their own grandpa Joe almost shitting his pants on live TV.

Things like stutter or missing a step can be excused, but over 1h of live TV embarrassment?

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

His staff orchestrated this?

Yea okay wow, you are definitely blue maga

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

I think you're being a little knee jerk here, reread the comment, supafuzz definitely isn't a Biden supporter. You're in a Hexbear comm, nobody here is pro Biden or pro Trump.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@midwest.social

Give it a few weeks, you'll pick up on how everyone talks here.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I drive really slow in the super fast lane, I’m an a hole.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're allowed to swear on the internet.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know, I'm here for people who self censor on occasion, even if the person themselves is insufferable. I think it's an incredibly harmless thing to do, and sometimes it just reads better.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Totally fair, and i agree. In this case it smacks of false piety as the poster is quoting a song lyric, presumably as an insult since Leery's politics are about as far from Maoist Standard English as you can get.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Alright Dennis, you can say you're an asshole here among us hexagonal bears.

We won't bite

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

I don't think they're being pro-liberal; it comes across less as 'Biden is fine' and more 'Democrats are trying to force out their terrible candidate without being overt about it'

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lrn 2 reed plz

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

lmao I think you just challenged supafuzz to a fight.

they're saying a faction with the Ds wanted Biden out before the debate, there's a power struggle between that faction and Biden's, and that the faction that wanted him out has a better grip on reality. damning with faint praise isn't endorsement.

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

ngl my first reaction was "pistols at dawn, sirrah!"