oh, i've seen these things out in the racist villages of europe; they must be registering them as tractors or something and then banking that as long as they drive them far away from the city the local even more racist cops won't stop them

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I googled and googled and googled. And I got very tired of fucking googling. I wish I had started by asking you first.

[–] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If I saw one of these clunkers in downtown Milano I would have been as much in the fog as you were, but because I saw them in the villages around the French - German - Swiss triple border, I can give insight. Now, I'm not up to snuff with local vehicle registration, but if it's a local matter, that makes things very simple. You're a rich prick living in a village of 250 people, you personally know the mayor, and at least one of his three clerks. The mayor doesn't know or care about contacting the national vehicle registry to double check if some new fangled car design is road-worthy. After all his drinking buddy already owns a Tesla registered in the locality, and that's fine, this is just another Tesla right.

And by rich I mean, of course, a bunch of these places have private airstrips. So there's the perfect mix of local corruption / incompetency, always giving the rich the benefit of the doubt, but also, a very low volume of these vehicles driving very far away from any of the big cities (meaning next to zero reported incidents). And as long as you're not driving the damn things through people's barns, the local police has no reason to actually check what's up with these vehicles, or indeed, if they were even registered properly, and they didn't move the plates from a literal tractor. But again, there's little reason to assume plate shenanigans as they might be much easier to register out in the sticks.

Long answer short, how can they be driving cybertrucks if the model is illegal to drive on public roads in the EU? Illegally, of course. How did they get them in the first place? They were most likely rich enough to buy the car from the US and have it be shipped overseas. How can you drive that horrible thing on European tiny ass roads? Out in low density mostly empty roads.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

There's the perfect mix of local corruption / incompetency, always giving the rich the benefit of the doubt.

About ten years ago when I was an earnest lib I spent some time trying to understand libertarianism. I wish I had learned about leftism and talked to leftists instead. Somebody could have told me libertarianism was bullshit. But I was naïve and I didn't know any better.

I ended up starting to watch a series of Youtube vids of Michael Badnarik who at one time ran for president as a libertarian. I thought it meant something. I didn't know there must have been 100s of people who had done that. An oddity of the vids is that he had bugbears. An example is that he went on and on and on and on and on about allodial titles for cars.

Alloidial title is the concept of title ownership of property by virtue of possession.

It took me far too long to realize he was a wacko. Eventually I realized that in general libertarians are nuts. And all their explaining of their political philosophy and editorializing and lecturing is a lie. When they want to do something or they want something - they don't want any pesky laws or regulations getting in their way. They dream of that perfect mix existing in the entire US.