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An online space for the vegans of Lemmy.

Rules and miscellaneous:

  1. We take for granted that if you engage in this community, you understand that veganism is about the animals. You either are vegan for the animals, or you are not (this is not to say that discussions about climate/environment/health are not allowed, of course)
  2. No omni/carnist apologists. This is not a place where to ask to be hand-holded into veganims. Omnis coddling/backpatting is not tolerated, nor are /r/DebateAVegan-like threads
  3. Use content warnings and NSFW tags for triggering content
  4. Circlejerking belongs to /c/vegancirclejerk
  5. All posts should abide by Lemmy's Code of Conduct

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I dont see it here, so figured someone's gotta post it. Here is the definition of veganism as made by the vegan society circa 1944:

"Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."

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Just joined yesterday and it seems like these communities are pretty empty. Is there a bigger one somewhere?

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Let's be honest, wood milk sounds awesome, I hate dairy milk and I was very confused when the video turned out to be a got milk campaing in the end.

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If you are a European citizen please sign and share this to end agricultural subsidies for meat industry. Almost 2/3 of required votes are already reached.

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"We are in an age which, to an extent, embraces feminism, anti-racism and anti-ableism. Perhaps it is also time to include “speciesism” in our discussions about ethics – since valuing some species over others is a form of prejudice."

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Yeah? And what part of the meat most people buy is natural? Tell you what, if you insist on eating meat, then go get a sharp stick and hunt it yourself. Not with a rifle or anything like that btw, that's not "natural" either. Sharpen a stick with your own teeth and face that herd of wild bison with it, good luck! Not only will we won't bother you in that case, but if you can pull it off and make it out alive none of us would even be in a position to bother you and will probably be scared as hell of you.

And don't you start with "do you know how processed and full or cHeMiCaLs those vegan meats are?" Yes, I'm aware you need to do a lot of processing to make plants look like meat. You also need a lot of processing to make meat look like the meat you'd recognize. You can make fairly convincing plant based meats fairly easily from grocery store ingredients in your own kitchen btw, in that case it's still processed food (processed by you), processed isn't this scary word that means the food is evil.

"What about all the artificial flavours?" What about them? Just because it's artificial does not mean it's dangerous or even that it did not come from a natural source. When you eat organic almonds, you're ingesting something called "benzaldehyde", which is the primary flavour compound that we associate with almonds (it's not cyanide, that's a myth, cyanide smells like bitter almonds, not the sweet almonds people normally eat, because bitter almonds actually produce quite a bit of HCN, but most people have never smelled bitter almonds before since it's very uncommon, and even then most of the smell of bitter almonds still comes from benzaldehyde). When you eat an artificially flavoured almond bread, you're ingesting that exact same chemical, but because we synthesize it in a factory instead of milling tons of almonds to get a comparatively tiny amount of oil it's "artificial", does it mean it's evil?

And you know who else gets tons of nutritional supplements among numerous other drugs? Livestock. The ironic thing is that the drugs they give livestock doesn't actually end up as nutrients for us, they're to keep the animals alive long enough to produce an economical amount of meat because they live in environments they are totally unsuited for and would die immediately if not heavily supplemented. So yeah, tell me again about how raising livestock is "natural" while a human taking supplements is not.

Also, I'm about to dive into the concept of "natural" and "nature" here. I'm an environmental science/conservation major, which is where I get my hatred for modern meat production from. The notion of "humans are not part of nature", that we're above it or parallel to it is totally false. We evolved on this planet, we're subject to its rules. Everything we do is "natural", including using our naturally big brains to develop alternatives to meat and then choosing not to eat meat anymore.

Deviating just a bit from veganism to colonialism: The concept of "humans are not apart of nature" has historically been used to justify oppression of indigenous peoples. Those national parks that no one is allowed to live in because they want to "preserve the nature"? They were filled with Indigenous peoples doing their things for ten thousand years, until Europeans came and said "well we want to preserve nature and humans aren't apart of nature so all of you savage natives have to GTFO."

So the entire notion of "this is natural" and "this is not natural" is invalid. If we find a way of doing things that produces better results overall compared to how we used to "naturally" do things, switching from meat based to plant based diets for example, nothing in "nature" prevents us from doing that or says we shouldn't. Again, we evolved big brains as part of our niche in the natural ecosystem, we should really use those things more and come up with mutually beneficial solutions.

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From 2006 to 2018, the tiger numbers almost doubled to 2,967 and are now well above 3,000, according to the recently released census in India, home to 70 percent of the world’s tigers. Indian PM Narendra Modi also launched the 'International Big Cats Alliance', which will focus on the protection of seven big cat species: the tiger, lion, leopard, snow leopard, puma, jaguar and cheetah.

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The species whose lives were offered up for sale include polar bears, lions, African elephants and leopards wrapped up in special holiday packages offered at relatively low prices, like 900 euros for a giraffe and 4,500 euros for a hunt to kill a female lion—including international flights and 7-day accommodations.

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"The clear and obvious solution is for those of us who have a choice in what we eat each day to simply adopt a nutritious, plant-based diet and abstain from meat altogether – the kind with legs and the kind with fins," says a researcher.

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Notorious monkey trafficker Charles River Laboratories intends to truck about 1,000 endangered, illegally imported long-tailed macaques from Houston to Dulles International Airport in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday morning (March 14), where they will be put on the next flight back to Cambodia to be returned to the smuggling pipeline for the experimentation industry—apparently with the blessing of the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) and the U.S. Department of Justice.

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After the biggest ever wolf cull in Sweden in recent months, the planned cull of lynx is out of all proportion to any danger to livestock or people, Swedish wildlife conservationists say. They are asking the EU to take action against Sweden for breaching environmental law.

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"Some may call it greed, but we also keep pets and eat livestock, that’s because there is a demand, so how is it any different to fur trade?”, one fur garment seller says.

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As you may have expected, many popular Android apps for pets as well as farm animals are putting their users at risk by exposing sensitive personal data, researchers say.

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"These studies fail on both scientific and ethical grounds", one researcher argues.

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Rubén Nava had been replaced as director of the local zoo in the city of Chilpancingo on 12 January following the death of a deer there. But an investigation found some animals in the zoo had allegedly been sold, traded or eaten under Nava’s orders.

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