June 15th will drop by, and everyone will notice what most people here already know: that Reddit is hopeless, and it's showing its middle finger to the community.

Based on that, I was thinking about releasing an infographic, telling people what's going on, and asking them to replace their Reddit content with gibberish. And I'm wondering if more people want to join this.

What do you guys think about this? Would anyone here be willing to contribute?

The infographic would list no authorship. It would be, for all intents and purposes, public domain. The only thing that you'd get in return is the warm feeling that you made internet better, by helping to kill Reddit.

The format is up to debate, but I was thinking about:

It's a picture so it's easier to share; split into sections that can be read in any order that you want (or you can ignore a few of them).

In special, I'd like help of people who write stuff well. I'm pedantic, verbose, an L3 speaker prone to "then who was phone?" grammar, and I genuinely think that plenty people could do better than I can in this aspect.

I also believe that a collective effort from a bunch of people will be probably better than just a single person doing it alone.

Have you left reddit forever? Have you deleted your account and posts? Just curious

Credit @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org on Mastodon

It is read-only, no new submissions allowed, but it is no longer private.

As the title, suggest, jerboa feels really out of place coming from RiF, any recommendations to get a similar experience?

TL;DW - two days of protest is not enough, and he encourages people to migrate to other platforms, without suggesting which one.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/629220

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it just passed midnight in EST, and some of the largest subreddits (e.g. r/funny) have just gone dark. goodbye, reddit!

A long time ago, I played an MMORPG that was scheduled to shut down the beta world. That feeling, in the last moments, of everything around you seeming just as before, but knowing that this could be the last time ever you're seeing that world. That community.
I'm getting the same feeling looking at reddit right now.

Sure, the blackout might fizzle. The admins might be forced to recant, most subreddits might return. Even if they don't, reddit could survive in some form.

... or a digg apocalypse is repeated, and we're all presently witnessing the last moments before the bombs fall and nothing will ever be as it used to be.
A strange feeling, standing on the precipice of Internet history.

https://imgur.com/a/h4Rmz0Q

EDIT: Original reddit thread

Full link here. Please use an ad blocker to access that shithole. I'll copypaste the relevant excerpt:

“

Admins have promised minimal disruption; however, over the years they’ve made a number of promises to support moderators that they did not, or could not follow up on, and at times even reneged on:

• In 2015, in response to widespread protests on the sub, the admins promised they would build tools and improve communication with mods.
• In 2019 the admins promised that chat would always be an opt-in feature. However, a year later an unmoderated chat feature was made a default feature on most subs
• In 2020, in response to moderators protesting racism on Reddit, admin promised to support mods in combating hate
• In 2021, again, in response to protests, Reddit’s admin promised a feature to report malicious interference by subreddits promoting Covid denial.

”

Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36268458

Inflammatory picture obviously related.

A lot of deletion/edition tools rely on the API in order to work. As such, they'll stop working on the 1st of July, as the API price changes start being enforced. Better do it now than never.

In my humble opinion, the easiest of them to use would be Power Delete Suite. It allows you to export your content if you so desire.

There's also dessalines' Reddit-History (yup, the Lemmy admin!) that helps you to export your stuff, in case that you want to do it in a more fine-grained way.

There are other tools to do it, however, so pick the one that you like the most.

Should I delete my content? Or edit it?

Up to you. I think that it simple deletion is enough.

However, if you want to edit your content, keep in mind that Reddit likely wants to capitalise on data model training, so pick one of the two choices:

1. Blabber.

Random words, in an agrammatical word order, devoid of any sort of meaning. Introducing noise on the data models makes the data from Reddit considerably less reliable.

If you feel specially uninspired, here's a random word generator. You could also try Zompist's gen, it's a tool intended for people constructing languages, but it's damn good to generate non-linguistic babble.

2. Some message against Reddit.

Don't use swear words, as those might get filtered. Something as simple and short as "potatoes are great because Reddit is a scummy company" goes a long way.

That would also help to pinpoint which companies are doing businesses with Reddit, and pressure them to stop doing it.

Noooo! Think on all the helpful threads!

You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs. While it's true that some information will be lost (less if you back up your content elsewhere), overall you're doing better for the internet by not playing along a clearly hostile agent in it.

EDIT:

Thinking about Reddit Inc.'s strategy to get money, perhaps it is better if you replace the content of your comments with random babble than if you simply delete it, if you want them to lose money.

Random babble is not just less useful for those large language models; it's outright poisonous, it's worth less than nothing. I might be wrong but I think that it decreases the value of the platform even further than plain deletion.

Popcorn, anyone?

I think that it's useful to look at older events, in the light of the newer ones. You won't change the past, but you'll understand the present better.

Also keep in mind that I'm not American, so I'm not really attached to all this discussion about Trump. I'm strictly focusing on Reddit here.

In 2019, the subreddit The_Donald (onwards, "TD") was quarantined, under the allegation it was promoting violence against cops. The same subreddit would be then banned in 2020, as Reddit changed its content policy to disallow hate discourses.

The tweet that @Reddit then released was the following:

>"As Snoos, we do not tolerate hate, racism, and violence, and while we have work to do to fight these on our platform, our values are clear." // A letter from CEO Steve Huffman.

Let's skip the hilarious "as snoos", showing how clueless Spez is about his fiefdom's community. And let us ask the following question:

Was TD a hate subreddit? (I know, I know, might as well ask if two plus two equals four; but let us entertain the doubt, for a single moment.)

If it was not a hate subreddit, then it shouldn't have been deleted in 2020. Under this unlikely, Devil's Lawyer style hypothesis, Reddit is lying about the reasons why that subreddit was banned.

However, even if we acknowledge that TD was a hate subreddit, it should not have been quarantined; instead it should've been banned on the spot. What changed in the meantime that prompted Reddit to quarantine a subreddit until it was devoid of activity, only to delete it months later under another reason?

Perhaps the values of the company changed, in such a short time. Or the company is lying about holding values that it does not. No matter how you address this, Reddit does NOT stand against hate, racism, or violence. Ellen Pao, its former CEO (2014-15) is being spot on, when she says that

>I am obligated to call you out: You should have shut down the_donald instead of amplifying it and its hate, racism, and violence. So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. You don't get to say BLM when reddit nurtures and monetizes white supremacy and hate all day long

Reddit Inc.'s actions get more understandable if you acknowledge that:

1. It is a business. As such, it seeks profit maximisation.
2. There is no guiding principle for or against hate discourses within the company. Or any other social cause. They'll simply play with both sides as long as profitable.
3. Steve Huffman sees no problem on lying to the users, when it is convenient to do so.
4. Given that this fucker became CEO of Reddit again, those lies have the implicit agreement of the rest of the company.

Let's recontextualise those four points into the light of the current events.

• The third party mod tools will have free API access. Does Reddit care about its users, including moderators? (No; see #4, if you're eager to lie to someone you don't care about them.)
• Huffman claims that the Apollo developer threatened them, then backs down as a "joke". Is this anyhow credible, given Huffman's previous behaviour? (No; see #3.)
• Reddit Inc. is now claiming that API access will be free for disability-focused apps. Does Reddit care about blind users? (No; see point #2, they don't care about marginalised groups). EDIT: as @crank@beehaw.org correctly pointed out, this only applies to non-commercial apps.
• Why is Reddit so fucking scummy? (See #1.)

The API events are just the tip of the iceberg. Don't be fooled by thinking that Reddit will magically become better over time; it won't.