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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by pe1uca@lemmy.pe1uca.dev to c/reddit@lemmy.ml
 
 

Just did a quick update to the add on, mainly to be able to quickly enable it and disable it, just clicking an icon in the URL bar.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reddit-to-wayback-machine/

Also open sourced it
https://github.com/pe1uca/reddit_wbm/releases/tag/v2.0.0

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I was a founder of 1 that had 75k subscribers and the others I was there on and off. Feels like a weight is lifted. Next step is to leave Reddit as a whole. Will keep you posted

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It looks like Lemmy is also attracting developers on GitHub.

Source: https://star-history.com/#LemmyNet/lemmy

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For a sub that’s supposed to promote Reddit alternatives, there sure is a lot of pessimism on there. I see so many people dismissing Lemmy and kbin already for being too inaccessible, the UI is clunky, it’s hard to pick up etc and saying these sites will never take off. But why? Of course a platform in its infancy will have hurdles to overcome, and it takes time for devs to implement all the QOL features to make the site more intuitive. And when I see people trying to explain how Lemmy works, people just respond “Too complicated, I’m not reading all that etc.”

Do people expect a fully functional Reddit clone with all the same features to conveniently exist somewhere they can hop to? Do people not realise that Reddit itself was just as confusing when users migrated from Digg all those years ago? Do they not realise sites take time to mature?

RedditAlternatives is the only subreddit I still use because I want to help people make the jump, but it’s kinda disheartening seeing the attitudes there. Anyone has a more optimistic take on this?

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x-post from https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/28560/


The reddit blackout is even more effectivte than expected! 5177/8829 (~60%) of subreddits are still dark [1] and the posts per minute are down to 1000 from 1400 [2].

This is huge. Subreddits were supposed to be back up yesterday. I personally missed Reddit the first day but now I am super comfortable here.

Glad to have found a new place to hang out!

Edit: Reddit has 100k subs, 60% out of those who officially signed up

[1] https://reddark.untone.uk/

[2] https://www-heise-de.translate.goog/news/Reddit-Blackout-dauert-an-30-Prozent-weniger-Aktivitaet-Werbebranche-wartet-ab-9189048.html?wt_mc=rss.red.ho.ho.rdf.beitrag.beitrag&_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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Found this link that follows the Reddit issues. Not sure if it's a good/best one, hope it helps.

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I hope Reddit learns from there mistakes but probably not they are for the bottom dollar and will listen to investors before they listen to the community that made them who they are today . All it costed us was our time and volunteering. RIP Reddit

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Decided to hop on reddit just to see how the blackout is going. visited one of the subs I used to use for 3p App and found this gem

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Louis Rossman being based as usual.

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Zansacu@lemmy.world to c/reddit@lemmy.ml
 
 

I'm a fully mobile user (Android), so that limits my options. I don't just want to delete my account but also delete my posts and comments.

I was mostly shitposting but still had some 200k Karma so it could pinch Reddit a bit to remove that but it won't hurt users or Google search since I wasn't doing anything 'productive' or 'helpful'.

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I never had a reddit account, just used RedReader for lurking. But I uninstalled RedReader even though it would continue to work.

Leave Reddit Now

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cross-posted from: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/25185

It started as an answer to a comment, but then I figured it might be worth a post on it's own.

So here you go:

  1. The blackout was not noticeable in terms of engagement. There were plenty of threads that still got tens of thousands of upvotes, so the frontpage didn't look more empty than before. There were just some missing subs and an occasional reference to the blackout on the subs that were closed. The impact was much, much smaller than people here and over at lemmy suggest. Of course your personal frontpage is a lot more empty if you subscribed to the subs that are part of the blackout. It's absolutely not the case for /all though.
    Additionally, the blackout trackers are confusing. They show how many subs went black in relation to a total amount. Many people, me included, at first thought the total was the actual total amount of active subs, while in reality it was only the subs that pledged to close down. Reddit has up to 140,000 active subs, so in fact not even 5% closed.
    The attempt to show that reddit is generally uninteresting without a certain part of mods and users failed.

  2. The API/3PA changes affect like 5-10% of users, so for most this isn't even a problem. I was really surprised when I found out about that number yesterday, because i thought it would be more like 20-30% for whatever reason. Every time there is a discussion about 3PAs that fact is omitted, so that the problem seems larger than it is. Why should the overwhelming majority that doesn't use 3PAs care about that topic?

  3. The company doesn't consist of total morons. The user base of reddit is known to have a certain amount of people who are able to organize a protest network (think back to the net neutrality protest). They knew this was going to happen and it was already priced in. They stay on their path because reddit will be more profitable than before. They are losing troublemakers (aka people who want to have a say in their company policies aka us) with this move and will probably gain a multitude of new users with whatever they are aiming for. Everyone is asking why they have 2000 employees. Well, a bunch of them are surely hired in the marketing department. I assume they studied that shit and know exactly what they are doing. They certainly have business psychologists, marketing experts, data scientists.

To reword what I'm trying to say here: Instagram et al aren't that huge because they do what the users want, but because the companies know how to shape a service to cater to the majority of people. Reddit will do the same. In capitalism, going public is the logical step for a company to scale with their amount of clients. Catering to shareholders is inseparable from that, so rationalization is inevitable. The users who recognize that seem to be a minority. This minority is moving to the fediverse now, which, to put it in a more optimistic light, is kind of a win-win situation.

  1. I'm starting to care less about all that. I reflected about my reddit usage and figured that I mostly subscribed to smaller communities anyways. I rarely commented in subs that regularly got more than 1000 upvotes for their contributions. Having hundreds of comments under a post gets annoying fast, because you'll be having a hard time being part of a conversation and there is no way to find out if the thing you wanted to say wasn't already said anyways.

Posting was already starting to get annoying in medium-sized subs. I asked a question about fungus gnats in my plant pots, specifically pointing out that I want to use chemicals and not nematodes. Guess what? About 30 people recommended nematodes anyways. I don't want this low quality spam, so I'd rather have a smaller community where people read before posting and not comment for the sake of commenting. I'm also okay with the Fediverse having multiple communities about identical topics. The mycology subs on reddit where flooded with ID requests of the same mushrooms multiple times a day, so people cared rarely to help identifying, because of course there is no incentive to write the same thing multiple times a day. Having that phenomenon spread out between multiple communities will take the load of a single community and their mods to handle these low effort posts. Yes, having really small communities is shit because nothing happens and it gets a self-enforcing effect until everyone leaves. Having huge communities sucks because of the reasons I named. Medium-size are the best. A few thousand subscribers, a few threads a day, a few dozen comments per thread. That's my personal optimum for the communities I want to interact with.

  1. I don't think the Fediverse will grow rapidly and I don't think it needs to. We saw the rapid growth of mastodon after apartheid clyde took over twitter. The rapid shrinking of the active userbase a few weeks after was seen as a proof of its failure. But why is hardly anyone talking about the fact that the userbase three-folded compared to before? Sounds like a huge success to me, something any for-profit company would dream of. The same will happen to "reddit alternative"-services. We saw an influx of users in the last days (I was part of that), we will see another influx around July 1st and when old.reddit is shut down. Surely some decline here and there, but most probably constant growth when looking at a larger timescale the more the idea spreads and the more content is generated.

The shittification of for-profit platforms will continue indefinitely, users will always be driven away from them. Services come and go, there will be new trends, older concepts will be seen as outdated. It has always been like this, it will happen to services on the fediverse, too. But the fediverse as a general structure has huge potential, because it's a perfect base to adapt to these changes. The widespread confusion about how it works will sort itself out by more and more people understanding it and explaining it to their peers. It had to be done with internet/email 20 to 30 years ago, it still has to be done with things like 2FA. I'm a tech-savvy person and still find a lot of functions on the Instagram app unnecessarily confusing, but its one of the most used apps worldwide. Confusion will not stop people from joining a cool thing.

So, I guess I got you until the half of my post and you thought I would only be ranting about the situation. But its the opposite: as a matter of fact I'm firmly on the optimistic site of things :)

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I was thinking about how shitty it is that Reddit is going public, but then I remembered, Reddit has WallStreetBets, you know, the guys tho made GameStop stocks to skyrocket and crash every single wallstreet investor who was shorting on GameStop?

I think there is a huge possibility that the moment Reddit goes public the community will immediately make it crash it even worst (for reddit as a company) pump and dump it. The community is pretty pissed rn and I think it's kinda stupid to make a company public when we know what they are capable of and how petty they are.

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I deleted posts and comments using redact (free)

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cross-posted from: https://feddit.de/post/833950

Interesting theory for what might have been another motivation behind the API changes. After all, Sam Altman (CEO of OpenAI) is a member of the Reddit board. What do you think?

edit: this is not my article by the way

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Before the blackout I saw some of the posts about helping archive.org to store all reddit, and AFAIK they completed it.
Also, checking stuff to deploy lemmy and help the project I stumbled upon the problem I've seen a lot of us have: we search for solutions on reddit.
Most of the times is just to read, not to actually create a post, so I created this addon for Firefox to automatically ask web archive for the page instead of reddit.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reddit-to-wayback-machine/

A few caveats and stuff I'll improve later,
It forces to old reddit since new reddit doesn't load everything at once so the snapshot is incomplete.
It forces all the times you search reddit, so if you want to actually visit reddit to interact you need to disable the addon.
It doesn't handle the case when there's no snapshot :P
It's only for Firefox because it uses webRequests, I don't know yet how to implement this using MV3 to upload it to the chrome store.

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I'm currently studying the influx of people joining the network. A lot has happened in the last few days! But, I don't really have any specific stats to rely on.

So far, I've been able to use FediDB for Lemmy and Kbin, but those stats seem...low:

I know the flagship servers for both projects got hammered hard, do we have some way to determine if the number is bigger than what these current stats reflect?

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I was thinking that this could be the way to truly kill a sub. Let it descend to the noise, the chaos, the spam, and the hatred. Maybe do the least bit to stem claims that it's unmoderated.

If people are interested in devaluing Reddit, it seems like a good place to start

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I'm pretty happy with the experience on Lemmy so far as I joined even before the blackouts started happening. The trigger was the dumpster fire of an AMA with the CEO. I tried kbin first because it's supposed to be newer and more interoperable with other federated platforms but I found the instance I was on wouldn't properly load content from Lemmy and I couldn't find a kbin Android app. So I'll be here for the time being.

During the shitstorm on Twitter and the exodus to Mastodon, I tried out Mastodon and felt that it was a similarly welcoming experience. But I kept reading comments on Reddit that the Fediverse was too complicated and it was too hard to find people to follow because you needed their username as well as their instance to find them. I hope people have realised that it's not that much harder during this current Reddit shitshow.

Everyone understands that Reddit/Lemmy/kbin is built on community, and the growth of this community has been fostered by moderators, not Reddit itself. So my question to any subreddit moderators is: Is there something about the Fediverse that would prevent you from moving your community off Reddit? It seems pretty clear that people will try Reddit alternatives even before their favourite subreddits have moved. Users are engaged with the communities that you have built and loyal to the 3rd party app developers and we don't give a fuck about Reddit as an organisation.

Discussion open to everyone, but curious to know if any moderators are also using Lemmy.

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The top post is about pedophilia, and their cert is broken. gg reddit

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