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For example if a team was in victory formation and the qb took the snap on his knees, he would be down immediately. Thus preventing a fumbled snap.

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Panthers fan here looking ahead at the inevitability of Scott Fitterer getting fired after his horrible tenure here.

I know it’s harder to evaluate guys in front offices and identify who the next GM’s will be, but what are the names to look out for.

Also, any of these GM’s have ties to an up and coming OC that can replace Frank Reich in 2024?

Adam Peters and Bobby Slowik are a combo I am intrigued by.

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In todays league we see rival QBs who are very cordial with each other and gracious in both victory and defeat.

Are there any examples in the NFL of quarterbacks who hated each other and even engaged in trash talk before and after they faced off?

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When it comes to luck in the NFL we can boil it down to two old addages:

  • It’s better to be lucky than good.
  • Good teams make their own luck.

So which is it?  Let’s try to use some statistics and metrics to see which NFL teams have been the luckiest and unluckiest, and see if there is an addage that fits the 2023 season.

To keep the reddit post as short as possible, the metrics methodology part has been cut out. If you are interested in the thought process and methodology behind the luck quotient, you can read the entire article here: In the NFL, it's better to be lucky than good. Or is it?

NFL 2023 - Luck Quotient

The Luck Quotient

The Luck Quotient will be a measurement of how lucky or unlucky each NFL team has been thus far in 2023.  The one luck component I could not add was the effect of injuries.   Clearly it would be unlucky to lose your starting QB for the year, while remaining relatively injury free would be lucky for any team.

Unfortunately, I could not find a free source that listed all injuries by all teams in terms of man games lost.  I know the stats exist, but NFLLINES always limits statistics and metric to publicly availble stats.  If it were possible to add in the injuries metrics, we could do something where we assign value for starters, substitute and partial game injuries.  Unfortunately this will have to wait until such stats become available to all.

Luck Quotient metrics will either count for their full value, 1/2 their value, 1/4 of their value, or a flat 0.50 or 0.25 StDev units.  If you are interested in the how/why of the metrics, use the link above to read the full post. With that in mind, here is the list of metrics I chose for the Luck Quotient:

Full Value Metrics

  • FG %
  • Opponent Fumble Recovery %
  • Interceptions thrown

Half Value Metrics

  • Punt return avg
  • Kick return average

0.50 StDev units per occurance

  • Returned Fumble for TD
  • Returned Interception for TD
  • Recorded a Safety

Quarter Value Metric

  • Extra Point %

0.25 StDev units per occurance

  • Punt return TD
  • Kick return TD

The Luckiest & Unluckiest  NFL Teams in 2023

After we total up the scores for each metric, we are left with the final Luck Quotient for each team.  The 3 luckiest teams are the only 3 teams that scored over 3.0: 

  • Dallas(3.74)
  • Houston(3.16)
  • Tampa Bay(3.06)

Dallas scored 2.5 of their 3.74 luck points from defensive returns for TD and a safety.  Houston has no defensive scores and Tampa has a Interception return for TD.  If we eliminated luck points for defensive scores, Houston would be the luckiest team(3.16), followed by Tampa bay(2.56) and LA Chargers (2.46).

At the other end of the luck spectrum, the three unluckiest teams are the only 3 teams that scored lower than -2.0:

  • New England(-3.67)
  • Buffalo(-2.70)
  • LA Rams(-2.28)

If we eliminated defensive scores, New England(-3.17) would still be the unluckiest, but the Rams(-2.28), would flip spots with the Bills (-2.20), and the Vikings(2 defensive scores) would drop & tie for 3rd unluckiest(-2.20).  Both the Patriots & Bills have 1 defensive score, while the Rams have zero.  So their unluckiness extends to their defensive scoring prowess as well.

One statistical oddity, note the Denver Broncos Punt and Kick return units.  Punt return avg of 20.7 yds and kick return avg of 33.6 yds with a TD.  Surely that kick return average is inflated due to the TD return, but the punt return average is also off the charts.  Gold Stars to the Denver kick/punt return unit and coach for their performance in 2023 so far.

The other unusual tidbit, Green Bay's opponents only recovering 18.75% of fumbles so far. The lowest value for that I could find since 2018 was the 2021 Arizona Cardinal's opponents recovered only 30.51% of fumbles & 2019 New Orleans Saints' opponents recovered only 30.77% of fumbles. The ball is bouncing the Packers way so far.

Is It Better To Be Lucky Than Good, Or Do Good Teams Make Their Own Luck?

The record for each team is listed in the final columns of the Luck Quotient chart.  And the answer at least for 2023 is pretty clear.

  • The 8 Luckiest NFL teams in 2023 have a combined record of 36 – 36 (.500).
  • The 8 Unluckiest NFL teams in 2023 have a combined record of 29 – 50 (.367).
  • If we combine the 8 luckiest and 8 unluckiest teams, those 16 teams have a combined record of 65 – 86 (.4305).
  • The 16 teams with average luck have a combined record of 86 – 65 (.5695).

Thus, good teams make their own luck, at least in 2023.

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Off topic but may be of interest to fellow Brits. College game day live is the first thing they are showing at 2pm today. Great to have it back on UK TV and on the same package as the NFL

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Watson had a MRI that confirmed he’d be out for the season on Monday due to a fracture in his throwing shoulder

And just 4 days later Joey Burrow recieves a MRI that reveals he’ll be out for the season too with a wrist injury

To recap:

  • both are Ohio starting quarterbacks
  • both have atleast a $230,000,000 contract
  • both are out for the season for what initially seemed like a minor injury
  • both got hurt in the same week, and both were hurt vs the Ravens
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Teams the 49ers have lost to:

  • Cleveland
  • Minesota
  • Cincinnati

All these teams have lost their QB. The lesson seems to be, don't beat the 49ers if you want your QB to stay healthy.

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Rank Team Adj. Win % Weekly Rank Change
1 Philadelphia .780 --
2 Kansas City .743 +1
3 Baltimore .724 -1
4 Detroit .719 +1
5 Cleveland .694 +2
6 Pittsburgh .674 --
7 Jacksonville .674 -3
8 San Francisco .653 +2
9 Seattle .610 +2
10 Miami .582 -1
11 Dallas .574 +1
12 Cincinnati .571 -4
13 Minnesota .566 --
14 Houston .557 +1
15 Indianapolis .503 +3
16 LA Chargers .481 +1
17 Tampa Bay .464 +5
18 Buffalo .462 -4
19 NY Jets .452 -3
20 Denver .451 +5
21 Las Vegas .451 +3
22 New Orleans .440 -3
23 LA Rams .408 +3
24 Tennessee .403 -4
25 Atlanta .382 -4
26 Washington .379 -3
27 Green Bay .353 --
28 Chicago .294 +2
29 Arizona .270 +3
30 New England .267 -2
31 NY Giants .251 -2
32 Carolina .196 -1

I'm using a simplified/modified Colley Matrix iteration process (https://www.colleyrankings.com/method.html)

To summarize, you take the win percentage of every team and correct it against the win percentage of their opponents. Then you have a new win percentage. And I repeat that process until the correction factor is below .001. Essentially this is what I would expect the win percentages to be if the teams played an average team every week.

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2 starting QBs were lost in the most competitive division. That hurts. Ravens lost andrews as well last night, and he was one of Lamar's favorite end zone targets this year it looks like. It's a shame too because of how things were going. We were all hoping everyone would be fighting to the finish instead of limping to the finish.

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Just seeing Joe Burrow’s out for the year now and it’s been brutal. How many backup QBs have started games? Is it a NFL modern record?

Aaron Rodgers out for year Kirk Cousins out for year Daniel Jones out for year Deshaun Watson out for year Joe Burrow out for year

Not to mention Justin Fields, Matt Stafford, Kyler Murray, etc. who have been banged up

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I have huge respect for Bill and his legacy as a coach, but am curious on everyone’s thoughts regarding what will happen next season. Speculation seems to be that the Chargers are a likely landing spot.

That being said, does the utter failure of Bill’s coaching tree and closest disciples warrant any concern regarding Bill’s ability to succeed in a new system?

Seeing how many years Patricia, McDaniels, and O’Brian spent with Bill, and how horribly implementing the “Patriot Way” resulted naturally is a cause for concern.

Bill’s results as a head coach are irrefutable and will likely stand the test of time. That being said, was it lighting in a bottle matching a great coach who implemented a system and culture that allowed the greatest QB of all time to thrive, or was Bill truly a football mastermind who could replicate the same success at another team?

Interestingly, I’d argue (minus Brady) this Chargers offense would easily be the most talented squad Bill has ever had top to bottom. How do you think this will play out?

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Don't beat the 49ers. There's something spooky going down in the Golden State.

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This doesn't include post season stats either.

Luck was sacked 11 times in his whole playoff career (8 games), Burrow has been sacked 29 times in the playoffs (7 games)

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