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| | 1 | Philadelphia (0) | | 1 | 1 | 1 | | 1 | | 1 | 1.0 | 0.0 | 1 | | 2 | San Francisco (0) | | 2 | 2 | 3 | | 2 | | 2 | 2.2 | 0.4 | 4 | | 3 | Kansas City (0) | | 3 | 3 | 2 | | 3 | | 4 | 3.0 | 0.7 | 6 | | 4 | Baltimore (1) | | 4 | 4 | 4 | | 4 | | 3 | 3.8 | 0.4 | 2 | | 5 | Dallas (1) | | 7 | 7 | 5 | | 5 | | 5 | 5.8 | 1.1 | 3 | | 6 | Miami (2) | | 5 | 6 | 6 | | 6 | | 6 | 5.8 | 0.4 | 7 | | 7 | Detroit (-3) | | 8 | 5 | 8 | | 7 | | 7 | 7.0 | 1.2 | 8 | | 8 | Jacksonville (1) | | 6 | 8 | 7 | | 8 | | 8 | 7.4 | 0.9 | 5 | | 9 | Buffalo (2) | | 13 | 10 | 9 | | 11 | | 10 | 10.6 | 1.5 | 13 | | 10 | Pittsburgh (4) | | 9 | 13 | 12 | | 10 | | 9 | 10.6 | 1.8 | 11 | | 11 | Houston (-1) | | 12 | 12 | 10 | | 9 | | 12 | 11.0 | 1.4 | 12 | | 12 | Denver (3) | | 10 | 9 | 11 | | 13 | | 13 | 11.2 | 1.8 | 10 | | 13 | Cleveland (-5) | | 11 | 11 | 14 | | 14 | | 11 | 12.2 | 1.6 | 9 | | 14 | Seattle (-2) | | 14 | 14 | 13 | | 17 | | 14 | 14.4 | 1.5 | 18 | | 15 | Indianapolis (3) | | 15 | 16 | 15 | | 15 | | 18 | 15.8 | 1.3 | 14 | | 16 | Minnesota (-2) | | 16 | 20 | 16 | | 18 | | 15 | 17.0 | 2.0 | 15 | | 17 | LA Rams (5) | | 18 | 21 | 19 | | 12 | | 16 | 17.2 | 3.4 | 17 | | 18 | Green Bay (6) | | 25 | 15 | 18 | | 16 | | 17 | 18.2 | 4.0 | 16 | | 19 | Atlanta (4) | | 19 | 17 | 17 | | 20 | | 20 | 18.6 | 1.5 | 22 | | 20 | Cincinnati (-4) | | 17 | 19 | 21 | | 26 | | 19 | 20.4 | 3.4 | 20 | | 21 | New Orleans (-4) | | 20 | 18 | 20 | | 24 | | 21 | 20.6 | 2.2 | 21 | | 22 | LA Chargers (-3) | | 22 | 23 | 22 | | 21 | | 24 | 22.4 | 1.1 | 19 | | 23 | Las Vegas (-3) | | 21 | 22 | 26 | | 22 | | 22 | 22.6 | 1.9 | 23 | | 24 | Tampa Bay (-3) | | 23 | 25 | 24 | | 23 | | 23 | 23.6 | 0.9 | 25 | | 25 | Tennessee (2) | | 24 | 27 | 25 | | 19 | | 26 | 24.2 | 3.1 | 24 | | 26 | NY Jets (-1) | | 26 | 24 | 23 | | 27 | | 28 | 25.6 | 2.1 | 27 | | 27 | Chicago (1) | | 27 | 26 | 29 | | 25 | | 27 | 26.8 | 1.5 | 26 | | 28 | Washington (-2) | | 29 | 28 | 27 | | 30 | | 25 | 27.8 | 1.9 | 29 | | 29 | NY Giants (1) | | 28 | 29 | 28 | | 28 | | 29 | 28.4 | 0.5 | 28 | | 30 | Arizona (-1) | | 30 | 30 | 30 | | 29 | | 30 | 29.8 | 0.4 | 31 | | 31 | New England (0) | | 31 | 31 | 31 | | 31 | | 31 | 31.0 | 0.0 | 30 | | 32 | Carolina (0) | | 32 | 32 | 32 | | 32 | | 32 | 32.0 | 0.0 | 32 |

[SN] ( https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nfl/news/nfl-power-rankings-chiefs-cowboys-browns-broncos-packers/3eda3afe4d6307fc2adc9bbe )

Y!

B/R

CBS

USA

NFL

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[CGPR] ( https://old.reddit.com/user/velociraptorfarmer/comments/185prn9/2023_week_12_nfl_power_rankings/ )

Latest from the Commodore64. Usual caveats with the numbers and I don't factor in tie-games as a possibility into the calculations. Apologies to the vocal group that doesn't like some of my 3-letter abbreviations.

• PHI, SFF, DET, DAL, MIN could all lose out and still make the playoffs. Other than PHI, the others shouldn't bank on that as a credible strategy.
• ATL, CAR, TBB, CHI, GBP, NYG, and LAR could mathematically sneak in with 6 wins. NOS, WAS, ARI, and SEA need at least 7 to have any kind of chance.
• If TBB wins out to reach 10 wins they're in, which is the lowest "assured" number of any team. C64 says ATL, NOS, and MIN need 11 wins to avoid any chance of being left out. DET, DAL, PHI, SFF, and SEA look like they need 12.
• CAR, CHI, GBP, NYG, WAS, LAR, and ARI do not control their own destiny.
• The "reasonable" win number that has decent chances of making the playoffs is 9, although 8 is waiting in the shadows to takeover the most likely status.
• Computer projections for wins likely to be good enough to take the divisions (i.e. roughly 2nd place + 1W or winning tiebreaker) are: NFC East 13 wins, North 10 wins, South 8-9 wins, West 10-11 wins.
• Looks like the Eagles clinch a spot this week with a win and a Rams loss. I penciled it out since that seemed weird that a Rams loss would matter as PHI beat them earlier and it looks like without the Rams losing, the possibilitiy would remain of a multi-team tie for all the wildcard spots occuring with the Rams winning the multi-team tiebreaker before h2h with the Eagles became relevant. At least that's the answer I'm going with because my head now hurts after trying to pencil it out.
• Panthers and Cardinals eliminated from contention with losses.
• My subjective analysis says get to 10 wins to be safe with 8 wins having at least moderate hope. Using that criteria, I have PHI (duh), SFF, DET, and DAL being "realistically in" as they could play Chargers football and still get there, and I have CAR, ARI, CHI, WAS, NYG as being "realistically out" as even 8 wins is either impossible for some or a tall order for the rest.
• For the teams in the middle of the fight, as in not on my realistically in or out lists above, there are four intra-conference games this week (SEA v DAL, DET v NOS, CAR v TBB, SFF v PHI), and the following outcomes would be the most beneficial to the non-combatant contenders as shown: Everyone better off with a DAL win over SEA; Everyone better off with a CAR win over TBB; LAR & SEA better off with a NOS win over DET, everyone else better off with a DET win; Computer says ATL better off with a SFF win over PHI and everyone else better off with a PHI win. I wasn't going to argue with the C64 on why that is for ATL.

Only the Jets, Patriots, Giants & Panthers have fewer points scored.

Only Pat Mahomes and Matt Stafford had higher completion percentages.

I feel like many teams’ fans complain their playcallers are calling way too many screen passes. So I was wondering who has the right to complain the most.

Hypothetically - a quarterback never misses a pass. Goes 35/35 for 600 yards and 5 touchdowns each game. What would their salary look like?

Discuss

The Vikings defense has been incredible the last two weeks. Unfortunately the offense has been an absolute disaster, and a combination of turnovers, poor execution, and awful coaching have completely stifled any ability to capitalize on the defense.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/player/joshua-dobbs-26101

The Linsanity run came to a screeching halt tonight lol

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That’s it. I’m fucking tired of playing to not lose and then giving the other team a chance to win.

TLDR: A few conditions exist where the Cowboys would be good enough to clinch the 5th seed by December 17, but bad enough where they are eliminated from division contention. The Cowboys would have a full month of not playing a relevant game (December 17th to January 13th-15th). This is an unlikely scenario but I got bored.

Conditions that need to happen:

COWBOYS

Week 13: W vs Seahwaks

Week 14: L vs Eagles

Week 15: W vs Bills

Record after December 17th: 10-4

Worst possible record: 10-7

Best possible record: 13-4

EAGLES

Go 3-0 over next three weeks

Week 13: 49ers

Week 14: Cowboys

Week 15: Seahawks

Record after December 17th: 13-1

Worst possible record: 13-4 with tiebreaks over cowboys

SEAHAWKS

Lose at least 2 of the next 3 with 1 loss coming against Cowboys.

Week 13: Cowboys

Week 14: 49ers

Week 15: Eagles

Record after December 17th: 7-7

Best possible record: 10-7 without tiebreaks

VIKINGS

Lose the next 2 games

Week 13: Bye

Week 14: Raiders

Week 15: Bengals

Record after December 17th: 6-8

Best possible record: 10-8

PACKERS

Lose 2 of the next 3

Week 13: Chiefs

Week 14: Giants

Week 15: Bucs

Record after December 17th: 6-8

Best possible record: 10-8

RAMS

Lose 2 of the next 3

Week 13: Browns

Week 14: Ravens

Week 15: Commanders

Record after December 17th: 6-8

Best possible record: 10-8

NFC SOUTH

Two of the Falcons (5-6), Saints (5-6), and Bucs (4-7) get to 8 losses by Dec 17th. Falcons and Bucs play each other so guaranteed L for one of them.

Next 3 if each team

Falcons: Jets, Bucs, Panthers

Saints: Lions, Panthers, Giants

Bucs: Panthers, Falcons, Packers

#Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings

ESPN Gamecast

U.S. Bank Stadium- Minneapolis, MN

Network(s): ABC ESPN

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Time Clock
Final

Scoreboard

	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Total
CHI	0	3	3	6	12
MIN	0	3	0	7	10

Scoring Plays

Team	Quarter	Type	Description
CHI	2	FG	Cairo Santos Made 25 Yd Field Goal
MIN	2	FG	Greg Joseph Made 34 Yd Field Goal
CHI	3	FG	Cairo Santos Made 39 Yd Field Goal
CHI	4	FG	Cairo Santos Made 55 Yd Field Goal
MIN	4	TD	T.J. Hockenson Pass From Joshua Dobbs for 17 Yds Greg Joseph Made Ex. Pt
CHI	4	FG	Cairo Santos Made 30 Yd Field Goal

Highlights from ESPN.com (Note: These links may expire in a few days)

1. The Bears go for it on fourth-and-10 as Justin Fields and Cole Kmet connect for a 24-yard pickup.
2. Jaylon Johnson intercepts Joshua Dobbs and runs it back to set the Bears up in Vikings territory.
3. Jaquan Brisker celebrates his interception by running to the end zone and hitting the Vikings' signature "Skol" celebration.
4. The Vikings go for it on fourth down but come up short of the sticks on a nice tackle by Kyler Gordon.
5. T.J. Edwards comes down with a deflected pass for the Bears' third interception of the game.
6. Josh Dobbs' pass is tipped by a defender before being intercepted by Kyler Gordon.
7. Josh Metellus forces the ball out of Justin Fields' hands as the Vikings get the ball back and squash the Bears' drive.
8. Joshua Dobbs lofts one into the end zone for T.J. Hockenson to give the Vikings the lead.
9. Josh Metellus flies in and drills Justin Fields to force another fumble for the Vikings.
10. Justin Fields finds DJ Moore for a big 36-yard gain, setting up the go-ahead field goal with seconds left in the game.

Passing Leaders

Team	Player	C/ATT	YDS	TD	INT	SACKS
CHI	Justin Fields	27/37	217	0	0	3-18
MIN	Joshua Dobbs	21/31	163	1	4	2-16

Rushing Leaders

Team	Player	CAR	YDS	AVG	TD	LONG
CHI	Justin Fields	12	59	4.9	0	14
MIN	Alexander Mattison	10	52	5.2	0	21

Receiving Leaders

Team	Player	REC	YDS	AVG	TD	LONG	TGTS
CHI	DJ Moore	11	114	10.4	0	36	13
MIN	T.J. Hockenson	5	50	10.0	1	17	6

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Coincidentally, his opposing QB today, Joshua Dobbs, is #4 on the list with 0.90 fumbles per game (18 fumbles in 20 games including today.)

Ryan Leaf is between those two QBs with 0.96 fumbles per game with 24 in 25 games.

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Yeah I know it's not a tweeter so it'll get removed but this dude is so dog shit it's comical

I have always wondered, at what point does the team know they missed on a pick? For example, on the first day of Cardinals training camp, was it obvious that the team had missed on the Josh Rosen pick? Did the Bengals know right away that Joe Burrow was going to be a star?

With the officials having their own union they will never allow them to be penalized for their bad calls or even missed/non calls when they are standing directly in front of the foul. These actions are causing teams to win/lose games and can cost a team millions of dollars in revenue (losers don't sell jerseys like the winners do) and can cost players (and coaches) their careers!
I think it's time for each team to get more challenges each half, maybe 5 per half, and the teams should be able to challenge non calls when the zebras miss obvious penalties as these can and have cost teams wins. Nobody wants the games to be delayed even longer but everyone wants the games to be called correctly!! A one minute maximum on a non call challenge gives enough time to review the different camera angles and when it's really close the replay booth can take a closer look, just like when the officials call their own look without a team throwing the red flag. Let's get it done correctly and get the real winner for each game

With all the advanced stats you see (most highlighted by initials ie:DVOA. MLB has the same thing going on) when will the NFL do something about interceptions? Dobbs tonight has 2 picks, one he threw by obviously underestimating the distance between his receiver and the defender; his fault. The other he put the ball in his receivers hands and he didn't catch it... instead tipping it up in the air for the interception. That should be in its own category charged to the receiver. Dobbs did everything correctly on that play, making the correct read and an accurate pass but the receiver CAUSED that interception. Why does that STILL count towards the quarterback?