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Sorry to be posting so many 320 updates, but this is the saga that just keeps going. Getting banned from IDPA is a big deal.

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Pretty good demonstration of the mechanics of how bumping the slide can cause the striker to drop. The guy takes the gun apart and shows which components contribute to this malfunction. Worth a watch if you're curious what's happening internally.

It seems pretty clear that there are a lot of differences between P320s in the wild, so it's hard to generalize these findings well. This guy's gun isn't stock, and I personally have not been able to reproduce this behavior on mine (which is stock). It does seem more and more that the 320 design does not tolerate non-spec parts well, which is especially weird given the design was supposed to be modular.

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In case you can't watch the video, this guy was able to reproduce an accidental discharge several times by putting a tiny amount of input on the trigger and wiggling the slide. He used a screw wedged into the trigger to consistently put the trigger up to the wall so it's hard to argue human error anymore. His findings seem to indicate that if you have input on the trigger, even if it's not enough to fire, and the slide is bumped, the gun can fire (at least for his particular gun).

Hard to say how common this will wind up being since there are tens of millions of P320/M17/M18s out there. Still...more bad news for Sig, and even a one in a million chance is enough for most folks to not risk it. I have one and, while I already never considered carrying it thanks to the lack of an external safety, I'd never even risk holstering it for matches or practice now.

The evidence really seems to be pointing to a low tolerance for out-of-spec parts in the P320 design. Any gun manufacturer is going to be incentivized to cut costs over time, so that's a really bad combo.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/32733770

Throughout the late 1960s, the militant Black nationalist group used their understanding of the finer details of California’s gun laws to underscore their political statements about the subjugation of African-Americans. In 1967, 30 members of the Black Panthers protested on the steps of the California statehouse armed with .357 Magnums, 12-gauge shotguns and .45-caliber pistols and announced, “The time has come for Black people to arm themselves.”

The display so frightened politicians—including California governor Ronald Reagan—that it helped to pass the Mulford Act, a state bill prohibiting the open carry of loaded firearms, along with an addendum prohibiting loaded firearms in the state Capitol. The 1967 bill took California down the path to having some of the strictest gun laws in America and helped jumpstart a surge of national gun control restrictions.

They also organized a march to the Capitol to draw attention to their cause of fighting against a government that sought to infringe on their right to bear arms. On May 2, 1967, 30 fully-armed Black Panthers occupied the California state Capitol. The demonstration was motivated by Republican Assemblyman Don Mulford’s bill to repeal the law allowing Californians to openly carry weapons, a direct response to the Black Panthers’ “police patrols.”

The group of activists occupying the Capitol with fully loaded weapons on full display was an unforgettable sight. However, their demonstration backfired and the bill passed both the state Assembly and Senate, with support from the NRA. In addition to repealing open carry gun laws in California, Mulford made it illegal to take firearms into the Capitol. On July 28 it was signed into law by Governor Reagan, who later commented that he saw “no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.

In the 1920s and 1930s, the NRA supported restrictions on who could carry guns on the streets in order to decrease hostility towards European immigrants—who were known to openly carry weapons at the time—within the country. And after the assassinations of Martin Luther King, Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy in 1968, the NRA backed the Gun Control Act that passed the same year, which put substantial restrictions on the purchase of guns based on mental illness, drug addiction and age, among other factors.

Ironically, it was the gun control laws that were put into effect against African-Americans and the Black Panthers that led “rural white conservatives” across the country to fear any restriction of their own guns, Winkler says. In less than a decade, the NRA would go from backing gun control regulations to inhibit groups they felt threatened by to refusing to support any gun control legislation at all.^[[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20250627043451/https://www.history.com/articles/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act | https://www.history.com/articles/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act]

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I'm looking into getting an AR-15, this would be my first firearm. I'm wondering if I should be worrying about what brand of ammo I choose to purchase, will it affect how quickly the barrel becomes dirty etc?

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