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This is an appreciation thread. All 4 games are iconic to me. Way underrated.

To me, midnight club is everything need for speed wanted to be. Need for speed had a few hits and many misses. Midnight club was 100% hits. And they aged incredibly. They're still fun as hell.

If you never played and you dig arcade racing games, go play. It's an open city racing game. Variety of racing types, endless challenges, and really great mechanicsi just wish it was as.pophlar as it deserves to be.

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Not sure if what I'm looking for exists, but thought I'd ask.

I like the boss fights of games like sekiro and and dark souls but I always end up getting bored of them before getting particularly far for one reason or another

I'm not a huge fan of the grungey art style most souls likes seem to adopt, and I often find myself wandering around not really knowing where I'm going, what I'm doing, or why I'm doing it

Really loved the Nier series. The combat in that makes you feel like a badass, whereas souls likes tend to make your character look like a regular guy with a sword (which I get is the point but not what I tend to look for)

Also like the visual style of black desert, the combat feels pretty good and looks very cool though I'm not a fan of all the micro transactions and pay to win (more or less the same goes for Warframe, at least when I played it years ago)

Does anyone know of any games that might scratch that itch, don't necessarily have to be souls likes as long as they look good and have challenging boss fights

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