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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/Matticus54r on 2024-07-06 01:43:54.

I bought a Manufacture Recertified Wester Digital 18tb from Server Parts Deal. Straight out of the box it has 30001 Pending Defects log.

What do you all think?

smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [x86_64-linux-6.1.74-Unraid] (local build)

Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===

Model Family: Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC550

Device Model: WDC WUH721818ALE6L4

Serial Number: 3GHSGT6E

LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 2afd8c386

Firmware Version: PCGNW870

User Capacity: 18,000,207,937,536 bytes [18.0 TB]

Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical

Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm

Form Factor: 3.5 inches

Device is: In smartctl database 7.3/5577

ATA Version is: ACS-4 published, ANSI INCITS 529-2018

SATA Version is: SATA 3.3, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)

Local Time is: Thu Jul 4 19:19:47 2024 CDT

SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.

SMART support is: Enabled

AAM feature is: Unavailable

APM feature is: Disabled

Rd look-ahead is: Enabled

Write cache is: Enabled

DSN feature is: Unavailable

ATA Security is: Disabled, frozen [SEC2]

Wt Cache Reorder: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===

SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:

Offline data collection status: (0x80) Offline data collection activity

was never started.

Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.

Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed

without error or no self-test has ever

been run.

Total time to complete Offline

data collection: ( 101) seconds.

Offline data collection

capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.

Auto Offline data collection on/off support.

Suspend Offline collection upon new

command.

Offline surface scan supported.

Self-test supported.

No Conveyance Self-test supported.

Selective Self-test supported.

SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering

power-saving mode.

Supports SMART auto save timer.

Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.

General Purpose Logging supported.

Short self-test routine

recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.

Extended self-test routine

recommended polling time: (1903) minutes.

SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.

SCT Error Recovery Control supported.

SCT Feature Control supported.

SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16

Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAGS VALUE WORST THRESH FAIL RAW_VALUE

1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate PO-R-- 100 100 001 - 0

2 Throughput_Performance P-S--- 100 100 054 - 0

3 Spin_Up_Time POS--- 099 099 001 - 67

4 Start_Stop_Count -O--C- 100 100 000 - 1

5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct PO--CK 100 100 001 - 0

7 Seek_Error_Rate PO-R-- 100 100 001 - 0

8 Seek_Time_Performance P-S--- 100 100 020 - 0

9 Power_On_Hours -O--C- 100 100 000 - 1

10 Spin_Retry_Count PO--C- 100 100 001 - 0

12 Power_Cycle_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 1

22 Helium_Level PO---K 100 100 025 - 6553700

192 Power-Off_Retract_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 1

193 Load_Cycle_Count -O--C- 100 100 000 - 1

194 Temperature_Celsius -O---- 053 053 000 - 40 (Min/Max 24/40)

196 Reallocated_Event_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 0

197 Current_Pending_Sector -O---K 100 100 000 - 0

198 Offline_Uncorrectable ---R-- 100 100 000 - 0

199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count -O-R-- 100 100 000 - 0

||||||_ K auto-keep

|||||__ C event count

||||___ R error rate

|||____ S speed/performance

||_____ O updated online

|______ P prefailure warning

General Purpose Log Directory Version 1

SMART Log Directory Version 1 [multi-sector log support]

Address Access R/W Size Description

0x00 GPL,SL R/O 1 Log Directory

0x01 SL R/O 1 Summary SMART error log

0x02 SL R/O 1 Comprehensive SMART error log

0x03 GPL R/O 1 Ext. Comprehensive SMART error log

0x04 GPL R/O 256 Device Statistics log

0x04 SL R/O 255 Device Statistics log

0x06 SL R/O 1 SMART self-test log

0x07 GPL R/O 1 Extended self-test log

0x08 GPL R/O 2 Power Conditions log

0x09 SL R/W 1 Selective self-test log

0x0c GPL R/O 30001 Pending Defects log

0x10 GPL R/O 1 NCQ Command Error log

0x11 GPL R/O 1 SATA Phy Event Counters log

0x12 GPL R/O 1 SATA NCQ Non-Data log

0x13 GPL R/O 1 SATA NCQ Send and Receive log

0x15 GPL R/W 1 Rebuild Assist log

0x21 GPL R/O 1 Write stream error log

0x22 GPL R/O 1 Read stream error log

0x24 GPL R/O 256 Current Device Internal Status Data log

0x25 GPL R/O 256 Saved Device Internal Status Data log

0x2f GPL R/O 1 Set Sector Configuration

0x30 GPL,SL R/O 9 IDENTIFY DEVICE data log

0x80-0x9f GPL,SL R/W 16 Host vendor specific log

0xa6 GPL VS 192 Device vendor specific log

0xb7 SL VS 1 Device vendor specific log

0xd8 GPL,SL VS 1 Device vendor specific log

0xe0 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Command/Status

0xe1 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Data Transfer

SMART Extended Comprehensive Error Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)

No Errors Logged

SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)

Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error

1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 1 -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1

SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS

1 0 0 Not_testing

2 0 0 Not_testing

3 0 0 Not_testing

4 0 0 Not_testing

5 0 0 Not_testing

Selective self-test flags (0x0):

After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.

If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

SCT Status Version: 3

SCT Version (vendor specific): 256 (0x0100)

Device State: Active (0)

Current Temperature: 40 Celsius

Power Cycle Min/Max Temperature: 24/40 Celsius

Lifetime Min/Max Temperature: 24/40 Celsius

Under/Over Temperature Limit Count: 0/0

SMART Status: 0xc24f (PASSED)

Minimum supported ERC Time Limit: 65 (6.5 seconds)

SCT Temperature History Version: 2

Temperature Sampling Period: 1 minute

Temperature Logging Interval: 1 minute

Min/Max recommended Temperature: 0/60 Celsius

Min/Max Temperature Limit: -40/70 Celsius

Temperature History Size (Index): 128 (62)

Index Estimated Time Temperature Celsius

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127 2024-07-04 18:16 0 -

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1 2024-07-04 18:18 26 *******

2 2024-07-04 18:19 26 *******

3 2024-07-04 18:20 26 *******

4 2024-07-04 18:21 27 ********

5 2024-07-04 18:22 27 ********

6 2024-07-04 18:23 28 *********

7 2024-07-04 18:24 28 *********

8 2024-07-04 18:25 29 **********

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33 2024-07-04 18:50 36 *****************

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38 2024-07-04 18:55 37 ******************

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45 2024-07-04 19:02 38 *******************

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61 2024-07-04 19:18 40 *********************

62 2024-07-04 19:19 0 -

SCT Error Recovery Control:

Read: Disabled

Write: Disabled

Device Statistics (GP Log 0x04)

Page Offset Size Value Flags Description

0x01 ===== = = === == General Statistics (rev 1) ==

0x01 0x008 4 1


Lifetime Power-On Resets

0x01 0x010 4 1


Power-on Hours

0x01 0x018 6 239215656


Logical Sectors Written

0x01 0x020 6 1545767


Number of Write Commands

0x01 0x028 6 6346


Logical Sectors Read

0x01 0x030 6 154


Number of Read Commands

0x01 0x038 6 3677550


Date and Time TimeStamp

0x03 ===== = = === == Rotating Media Statistics (rev 1) ==

0x03 0x008 4 1


Spindle Motor Power-on Hours

0x03 0x010 4 1


Head Flying Hours

0x03 0x018 4 1


Head Load Events

0x03 0x020 4 0


Number of Reallocated Logical Sectors

0x03 0x028 4 0


Read Recovery Attempts

0x03 0x030 4 0


Number of Mechanical Start ...


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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/JAM3S0N on 2024-07-05 23:49:09.

Ok...server got hacked awhile back and system crashed. I buddy of mine recovered what he could. Now I have about 2 TB of family photos and videos on an external HDD,, unorganized, untagged, and making me insane. I am literally going through each photo and dropping them onto categories , like FAMILY, FRIENDS, KIDS.. etc . How can I do this faster. I think I'll die before I get through the 60,000 photos. I already found and deleted 4tb of movie posters and album artwork that was mixed in. I can't give up on my family's history of photos but I'm close. Any suggestions to make my life a little easier right now would be great..so I can get a new server up and running ..thanks in advance for any help.

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/alpha_black_lotus on 2024-07-05 23:23:18.

Asking for a friend.

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/nzodd on 2024-07-05 23:22:04.

Probably sitting on around 3 PB right now, so the economics of LTO tapes make much more sense than the spinning rust I've been using, just worried about biting off more than I can chew. What have your experiences been like with tape setups? What do you wish you knew before you started using tape?

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/Narrow_Substance_100 on 2024-07-05 22:45:41.

Hi folks. I haven't needed to buy any recordable Blu-Ray discs for a couple of years, but could use a small number (maybe a spindle of 10) and discovered that the prices seem to have doubled or tripled (unsurprisingly, I suppose). Seems like Verbatims (the only ones I found to be reliable) are about £4-£5 each now, with the cheapest make working out to about £2 each (which I presume would all end up as coasters).

Does anyone still buy these and can either recommend somewhere to get Verbatims at a lower price, or recommend one of the cheap makes that won't be complete garbage? It's not for long-term archival, just backing up a few US films that I've found that are region locked.

Thanks in advance, and apologies if this isn't the best subreddit for this question (virtually all of the top hits for 'optical media' were from here!)

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/AshDevito on 2024-07-05 21:23:17.

Hello! I'm so sorry to bother everyone! I rarely use reddit but I'm at my whits end here and I thought you lovely people might be able to help me! Im trying to find the best place to print off photos and not personal photos but just photos.

I'm a data horder and a big one at that and often find myself going through hundreds of art,fashion, meme etc . websites saving as many pictures as I can but I don't want them to stay on my laptop forever or even a memory stick/data bank I want psychically copies I can look at and I don't know the best way to obtain them. So that's my question what are the best apps/websites/services I can use to get the highest definition copies of these photos so I can have them (I mainly use a lot of them for art or scrapbooks I live in a rural village these photos will never leave my possession). I know a lot of people may say printer but if that's the case what would be the best one to buy? What's the best ink? Etc.

I hope you can help me! Thank you :D

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/MaryJaneChaos420 on 2024-07-05 20:08:54.

Some downloaded MKV video files (mainly 4k HDR) do NOT show thumbnails on windows 11. Others do. I have tried the Windows troubleshooting steps of thumbnail cache clearing, etc.

Not sure the reason for this - I'm thinking those releases may be corrupt (but they play fine on the video player). I need to know if these files are corrupt and if I should get other releases (for archiving). Or is there a way to fix this issue on Windows 11 and I can view thumbnails for these video files?

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/[deleted] on 2024-07-05 19:57:35.

Printing out QR codes when storing low volume data is one of the best long-term storage methods as even standard copy paper lasts a lifetime.

However, what would be some disadvantages of such a method?

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/Cheap-Project-3314 on 2024-07-05 19:28:10.

Ok, i just had to share this because what in the blue blazes. Got a 128gb sd from Sandisk. Tried flashing something that would create 3 partitions. It.just.bloody.wouldn't. So down the rabbit hole I went, using every single formatting software under the sun, both in windows and linux and nothing. Then I discovered that, for some unholy reason, this sd card will only allow at most 2 partitions. It can have 1 partition with the whole capacity, it can have 2 partitions as long as 1 of them is at most 3 gb, while the second is at most 100gb. I repeat, what in the blue blazes. So what I needed was to install emuelec, which creates 2 2gb partitions and allocates the leftover space to EEROMS, which is where you put roms and stuff. Obviously, given what I discovered that was impossible. So I said, ok I'll install Batocera then, since that only uses 2 partitions. Well, it just so happened that one of those partitions is 4gb in size. In that case, you literally cannot create a second partitions that is even 1 MB in size. Seriously, if one partition is over 3 gb, no other partition can be created, regardless of size. Insert shocked Pikachu face.

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/ThomasFMaher on 2024-07-05 18:35:15.

I have a failing drive (20TB Ironwolf) and would like to RMA it. What's your experience like with Seagate warranty claims? Would I receive a new or refurbished drive?

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/rvmeush on 2024-07-05 18:15:03.

I am going to be watching a graduation ceremony that will be live streamed. The video won't be available for download. I'm going to try several video recorders on my Mac and would like to test them in advance. Is there some website that has free video streams available for me to test my software? I'm looking for test videos that are only available to be streamed - not downloaded. Thanks.

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/JustAnotherPodcaster on 2024-07-05 18:02:00.

I was really set on getting this HDD:

WD Red Plus 10TB NAS Desktop Hard Disk Drive - SATA 6 Gb/s 256 MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD101EFBX (CMR DRIVE)

Normally $329.99 On Sale $274.99

The other option was to save quite a bit of money because I need to get several of them and go for this HDD:

Seagate BarraCuda 8TB 256MB Cache 3.5" Internal Desktop HDD SATA 6Gb/s (ST8000DM004) (SMR DRIVE)

Normally $249.99 On Sale $184.99

I could also go for this one: (though, my friend suggests to save money and go for the SMR one)

Seagate IronWolf 8TB NAS Int. Hard Drive – CMR 3.5 Inch SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM 256MB 3Yr Warr.(ST8000VN004)

Normally $289.99 On Sale $244.99

His reasoning is that I'm not operating a data center and I'm a simple home user who doesn't even have a NAS setup (I may set it up in the future)

I told him that I thought that SMR drives are less reliable but he said that's BS. He also said Seagate drives are known to be more reliable than WD drives.

My needs are simple. I have several computers and I'm moving data from the computers onto hard drives and I ran out of hard drive space so I need to buy more. I also decided to finally consolidate all the data and move stuff from one hard drive to another until every category of data is on the right hard drive.

That will take me a few weeks to complete and will require a lot of writing to the hard drive. Once all the information is written to the hard drive it will just operate as storage. Storage for me to access and view my files and use them and then disconnect the hard drive again.

It became a little expensive for me because every time I get a hard drive, I have to get two of them. One for the original data and one to backup that data from the first hard drive. If there are no two copies then it's not really a backup, it's just storage on one hard drive which can get corrupted and you won't have that data anywhere else.

So because I have to buy like four or six hard drives right now; he said to just go for the Seagate SMR drives and save money because my needs don't require the features of the CMR drives. Based on what I read online I think I should still go for the CMR drives but can somebody educate me here? I'm trying to understand what I actually need.

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/Sentinel_Prime_ on 2024-07-05 17:52:33.

Heyo fellow DataHoarders!

I have recently bought an LSI 9300-16i that is supposed to be flashed into IT mode. Sadly I can't seem to get it working and the seller just seems annoyed and rude when asking about it. As I am new to HBAs I could use some help

I have tried 5 different Motherboards

  1. MSI X570s Tomahawk with amd 3900x

  2. Asus Tuf B450 amd 3900x

  3. CWWK Q670 Intel 13500

  4. Asus Sabertooth Z77 Intel 3700k

  5. Minisforum AR900i Intel 13900hx

I've always used the primary x16 pcie slot.

When i boot up the server I starts normally. The HBA starts blinking a green LED for the entire time it's on.

There is no prompt to access the HBA's firmware and it's not recognized inside Windows(device manager) or Linux (lspci). Connecting or disconnecting drives doesn't change anything. Even tried different breakout cables.

What am I doing wrong? I'm already considering returning every part of my build that I can and just starting from Scratch.

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/Banzai262 on 2024-07-05 16:49:00.

Hello! I looked for an answer already but found very different, or even outdated responses.

I have a homemade NAS server running on Ubuntu server 22.04. I have SSD as my boot drive, and 2 8TB drives configured in RAID 1 with the built-in disk management tool, whatever it's called (so software RAID).

My disks are getting full, so I bought 2 16TB drives to replace my old drives. My question is, how do I proceed to increase the capacity of my array?

From what I have read online:

  • I could build another RAID 1 array with the new disks, and then copy the data from the old array to the new one. However, I don't have anymore SATA ports available. I do however have a Windows PC with free SATA ports, so maybe I could mount 1 of the array on this machine, but I am not sure I can just plug my disks on different machines with different OS.
  • I could also backup my data to another disk (which I don't have) or online (with my crappy upload speed it would take ages), and build a new array from scratch with the new 16TB disks, then copy/download the data to my new, bigger array. If possible, I would like to avoid doing that, as that is a lot of downtime.
  • Is there a third option I have not seen or thought about?

Thank you for your help.

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/andreas0069 on 2024-07-05 16:47:55.
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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/cjsv7657 on 2024-07-05 13:43:18.
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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/didyousayboop on 2024-07-05 11:46:26.

Podcasts have an extremely high rate of becoming lost media, i.e. they cease to be available by any means, including purchase, paid subscription, or piracy. This is especially true for small, hobby podcasts, but it’s also true for podcasts associated with professional podcast studios like Earwolf or radio broadcasters like the CBC.

If anyone out there has been hoarding podcasts, you may have a number of podcasts that can’t be found anywhere. A few examples off the top of my head:

  • The Indoor Kids
  • Raised By TV
  • Many CBC podcasts, such as Tapestry, The Next Chapter, Ideas, and others

Lost podcasts are typically safe to upload to archive.org. The rights holders often are defunct companies or don’t care at all about their old shows being shared (they aren’t trying to monetize them, after all).

I have been preemptively saving some podcasts to archive.org, but I keep running into podcasts that are already gone. Some of these are personally meaningful to me and I would love to see them be recovered.

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/kurbster1 on 2024-07-05 10:46:24.

Hello so I’m gonna get a new external hdd for my ps5 since my old one’s s adapter broke but the drive itself is good. I have WD external hdd and I was wondering if anyone knows how to transfer my saved data of all my games on that one to my new one via a pc. I know I can just stick the old hdd into my pc and new one too and copy to the new one but I have over 200 games and saved data so I’m wondering will the big size be a problem or should I be fine?

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/Alternative_Art42768 on 2024-07-05 10:22:03.

Is there any way of archiving Microsoft 365, Microsoft outlook login pages on Wayback Machine or Archive Today? Take the Microsoft Azure login page and the Microsoft Entra login page, for example. These pages, as well as the Microsoft login pages of various organizations, institutions, differ from the standard Microsoft login page since they often have different logos or background pictures. It would also be nice to know if there is a way to isolate the background picture for these Microsoft login pages. Take the two above-mentioned login pages for example.

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/mcflym1 on 2024-07-05 10:05:40.

Hi,

I ordered an 9600-24i Broadcom HBA. Before I had an h11ssl-nc board which worked great with my M.2 to U.2 adapters. But now they aren't working with my new 9600-24i.

Do you have any idea how I can connect my two M.2 nvme cards to this HBA? I looked around for U.3 adapters but didn't find a suitable adapter?

Are there any other options?

I tried this cable: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B098JBS7QD/ref=pe_27091401_487024491_TE_item

Should I try that original cable?: https://www.genuinemodules.com/05-60005-00

Thanks!

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/Pussy_fishing on 2024-07-05 09:49:41.

So I'm using gallery dl to download entire galleries from a site. It creates a separate folder for each gallery. But I want them all in one giant folder. Is there a quick way to move all of them with a program or something? Cause moving them all is a pain, there are like a hundred folders.

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/-SlinxTheFox- on 2024-07-05 03:06:21.

I very briefly used tag spaces before I decided I don't like it. but I did like the format of "title [tags]" because it meant I didn't need a program to access the photos, no weird file types or extra file data is needed, so I don't have an easier route to losing all my stuff to time. On top of that there's the tag spaces chrome extension that makes it easy to download art and format the names this way.

I'd like to not stop tagging, but this is now taking more time than I'd want. Ideally I'd have a program that saves a list of the tags I've used so that I can just click on them instead of typing them and trying to remember everything else I've used.

Is there either something like I described or another program/solution that's even better?

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/2zo2 on 2024-07-05 03:03:58.

Original Title: SteamRep, since 2009 a Steam profile database dedicated to cataloging and marking TF2/CSGO/Dota 2 scammers, fraudulent websites, and communities, and also arguably the first ever non-Valve Steam database website, is shutting down on July 15th, 2024, its entire forum will be wiped with no backups

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/Hark0nnen on 2024-07-05 02:06:18.

I need to upgrade drives in one of my NASes, to 12-16TB range, but there is an issue - i live in a small apartment, i dont have a closet, let alone a basement, to put my NAS into. It is sitting ~1m from my work position and ~2m from my head when i sleep, so acoustics is of utmost importance.

I was unable to find any review of large sized drives noise in a standardized environment, and official datasheets cannot be compared between different brands and often doesnt even list noise levels for enterprise type drives, so i would want some input from people who have experience with them.

To put a base for comparison, i currently have two NASes, one with 4 TB WD Greens, and one with a 6TB WD Blues (old CMR ones) with a mix of 2 WD Purples. WD Greens are perfect, completely inaudible on idle or normal seeking, and barely audible on thrash seeking. Blues are okeish, idle is louder than Greens but inaudible from 1m, seeking is audible, thrash seeking is annoying. Purples are bad, while idle is the same as Blues, even normal seeking on them is annoying, i am very displeased with this NAS since i had to replace a pair of failed Blues with Purples (as modern Blues are SMR). So i want something that is at least not louder than Blues (i realize that matching Greens is probably impossible, very sad WD is not making them anymore and at larger capacities).

Here is a list of drives i can buy here in Ukraine at reasonable prices and with warranty:

16TB Toshiba MG08 18.5$/TB 5 year warranty

12/14TB Toshiba MG07 22.5$/TB 5y

12TB Seagate Exos X18 19$/TB 5y

12TB Seagate SkyHawk AI 18.75$/TB 3y

12/16TB Seagate IronWolf Pro 22.5$/TB 5y

12TB WD Red Plus 24.5$/TB 5y

12TB WD Purple Pro 25$/TB 5y

16TB WD Ultrastar DC HC550 25.5$/TB 5y

(Limited size choices is because for some model lines some sizes have significantly worse price per TB)

So far Toshiba MG08 seems like a best choice, price wise and i read comments in various places saying that while not technically the quietest drive it is subjectively best due to seeking noise been spread over multiple frequencies, making kind of background rustle instead of sharp noise on other drives

But there is a concern i have with Toshiba - seems like all of this drives have idle parking enabled by default, which is very bad for acoustics, and according to my googling, there is no Toshiba's tool analogue to Wdidle/SeaChest. Will OpenSeaChest be able to control EPC values on Toshiba drives?

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The original post: /r/datahoarder by /u/19wolf on 2024-07-04 23:47:14.

There's always a lot of talk on this sub about new VS refurbished and which is better yadda yadda but I'm more wondering why drives end up refurbished in the first place. I was under the impression they're usually purchased by enterprises and found to be defective in some way or another, but then if they have issues, how can they be resold and be usable?

So really my questions are:

  1. What kinds of defects do these drives (potentially) have?
  2. How are those fixed?
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