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It seems obvious to me that there are lots of ways to (ab)use the rules and logic of capitalism to fund a socialist revolution. What are your ideas to make capitalism eat itself?

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I stg it was an accident please don't kill me

In case you're confused, check my username on my profile, not my display name

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I tried to send an appeal message in my application as a response to being banned, but I don't even know if they ever get read. My original account's application probably wasn't even read at all, which caused trouble for me later on. Here's what I said after I got home and saw what was done:

Appeal message

"I couldn't find any avenues to appeal my ban, so this is all I have. First of all, I just want to say that I'm genuinely hurt. I created my account over 5 months ago after following the site as a lurker for over a year now. I specifically said in my account's creation that I was unsure which communities I would be participating in, and that I just wanted an account to have the option to help out and contribute when my mental health makes it possible.

After 5 months of my mental health being in the trenches, I finally worked up the courage to start participating and contributing very important content that had absolutely nothing hostile to the mission of Marxism-Leninism. I was trying to build an archive of educational videos that people could link to (just provide links to the post) and I was really proud of what I was able to setup.

I also made it a point to respond to people in a timely manner, so naturally I made a People's Court case immediately once Wisconcom's post went live. I had a long, bad day at work yesterday and I get home and see that he had griefed ProleWiki, and that set me off because I genuinely care about the work all of you do and wanted to offer solutions that would put a stop to his bullying and deception.

I spent the rest of the night being upset about it, before going to bed. At work I was thinking about my People's Court case, looking forward to CriticalResist's feedback and setting up a system that would prevent this kind of thing from happening again.

You have no idea what this meant to me, and I'm at a loss for words that someone would be so quick to ban me without looking into my history, my contributions, even keeping an eye on me going forward to make absolutely sure I wasn't Wisconcom. I'm honestly heartbroken and feel so betrayed that I would come home tonight and just see the total opposite of what I had hoped for.

My account is gone, all the contributions I've made in regards to extremely important historical archives are now gone. Everything has been completely ruined. It's so upsetting that I've been driven to tears. I feel thoroughly demoralized and hopeless now, and just after I had finally crawled out of the pits.

I understand your positions as admins and that you have to deal with troublemakers all the time. I've been in your shoes and have made this kind of mistake in the past.

There were so many things I had to offer, but now I've been publicly humiliated, shamed, and now I'm probably hated not even three days after just beginning to spread my wings. I don't expect a response, not that there's a way to do it directly anyhow. I wish all of you good health and prosperity, and hope you take care to avoid shooting first and asking questions second.

Thank you for at least allowing me the opportunity to contribute what I did, and helping with my confidence about posting content (CriticalResist8). At least it served to further the development of historical literacy and will have hopefully affected discourse in a positive way.

I really wish you all would've talked with me more, and gotten to know me better. I was even planning on creating an ML Blender community so we could share projects we'd worked on to boost creativity, morale, and encourage the development of artistic skills. Art is massively important to the movement for communism.

It's such a loss and I need time to process this, because it's a slap in the face from the people I had held in high esteem. In the meantime, take care of yourselves.

  • aeon"

It's been a few days, and I've been able to get over the worst of the shock. I'm so confused as to why I was shot down so hard like this. All I've done since I got here is support Lemmygrad's development as a resource for oppressed peoples. I seriously encourage you to actually take a look at my resume. Here is everything I've contributed:

Contributions[Africa]:
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=VftR9vOn8xE - Thomas Sankara: the Upright Man
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=cobVBgQKdlc - Faces Of Africa - Sankara's Ghost
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=LVKgvakY_Io - Thomas Sankara speaks
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=aGQlUxkP1XQ - President of Socialist Party of Zambia: Human development is not sustainable on basis of plunder
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=wUhfpb4Uhis - Why is the U.S. promotion of democracy viewed with suspicion?

[Art]:
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=oL10Gt2uags - What can art look like when money is a secondary concern? Redline レッドライン (2009) Yellowline Race in 4k (EN, edited, 24fps, 5.1)

[China]:
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=8HuM5S0fY3g - China Says Democracy Is Not A Single Flavor Coca-Cola Worldwide
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=Vg7QOSyKMP4 - How does whole-process people's democracy work?
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=AMy--2KhozY - Whole-process people's democracy: China's domestic reality vs. the international rhetoric

[GenZedong]:
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=DMRdPp-TU9w - "Soviet Media's Portrait of the United States" (1986) Reel America Preview
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=dlYqISgwVYQ - Soviet Media's Portrait of the United States in 1986 (Extended version)

[Korea]:
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=g1h8XsQhT5o - Who is to Blame for Korea's Division and the Korean War?

[Hip Hop]:
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=RvOGeaEP_c0 - The Culture Industry: How Capitalism Ruined Hip Hop | 1Dime
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=1WkvomHrfVo - Ice Cube - Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It (CW violence by police and NATO troops and aftermath of violence (various levels of injuries))
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=67Pylw3Kukc - Dax - Dr. Dre ft. Snoop Dogg "Still D.R.E." Remix [One Take Video]
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=H5IXuJ7llf0 - Zack Fox & Kenny Beats - Square Up (Official Video)
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=nCGmeoyImIs - Dax - Dr. Dre ft. Eminem "Forgot About Dre" Remix [Official Video]

[Laborwave]:
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=xvRACQl5zos - 【Laborwave - North Korea is a paradise】
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=KfPwEL6PRqA - Laborwave - USSR (video version)
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=48vW8LbQ6TE - Laborwave - USSR (audio version) - [VAPORWAVE] - Eddy Huntington - U.S.S.R. DISCO LABORWAVE

[TankieTunes]:
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=s7Iig8dcs4s - "We will travel one road forever" - North Korean Patriotic Song
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=LnR0pN8o63g - Immortal North Korean Propaganda Masterpiece - "수령님을 따라 천만리 당을 따라 천만리" (Millions of Miles following the Leader, following the Party)

[World News]:
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=gTIRxpyX6EA - US-backed Terrorism Targets Vietnam & Myanmar in Wider War on China
https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=FQwoQnsiVOk - Washington's REAL Policy on China - "Repairing Ties" is Theater Ahead of Sanctions, War

[Video Games]
https://vede.itch.io/the-communist-dogifesto - The Communist Dogifesto

Is there anything wrong with any of this? What did I do wrong, exactly? This stuff should've added tons of value to Lemmygrad, and yet everything was wiped out. That's a tremendous loss, not for me, but for everyone involved here from admins, to users, to lurkers.

I've always been candid and sincere in all my interactions with everyone on this site. Two people offered feedback that they weren't happy with my cross-posting for a few videos because it was obstructing their feed, which I respectfully addressed and promptly stopped. I've always taken care to be respectful and uphold good etiquette, but that doesn't mean I'm immune to losing my temper when wreckers cause grief for fellow comrades.

Yeah, maybe none of you have seen anyone annoyed with Wisconcom, but guess what? You don't know how everyone feels all of the time. Most of the site's traffic is lurkers, and we have a lot of them. Do you know their stories? Do you know how they behave? How they feel? When one of them decides to start being hands on, anything can happen. You don't know them, even if they've had a ton of time to get to know a lot about you.

That being said, lurkers are commonly seen as anomalies when they start making moves. But being an anomaly doesn't mean you're a fugitive (Wisconcom).

I remember seeing a post by an admin that went a little something like this: "You're free to criticize anyone, even admins. However, you're only free to criticize our actions, not our political position. Take that to leftist in-fighting", which is perfectly reasonable.

I'm going to take them up on that and give you constructive criticism about me being wrongfully accused.

This part is directed towards CriticalResist8. I have also archived the relevant pages on the Wayback Machine just in-case you get any other cute ideas to recklessly erase history without due process.

Here's the archive of what's left of my People's Court case post: https://web.archive.org/web/20230714191523/https://lemmygrad.ml/post/929993

Let's take a look at the so-called "reasons" why I was accused of being Wisconcom:

Reason 1

  1. "instantly knows who defaced prolewiki, like they went into the edit history which nobody ever does lol"

First of all, I don't know how to go into the edit history, or even where to find this function. I knew it was Wisconcom because the profile (RedArcher9) had a picture with a quote of Enver Hoxha in the banner.

Wisconcom is a notorious hoxhaist, so this was arrogant, unnecessary, and even unprofessional to respond this way.

And guess what? I linked that very picture in the image function when I created the post. I even explicitly said so.

Reason 22. "talks like wisconcom"

This is an arbitrary statement that could mean absolutely anything. If you're going to make a claim like this, the responsible thing to do is provide receipts.

Talks like them in what way? Where is your documentation? You erased everything.

Where are your side-by-side comparisons?

This is is not good enough and wouldn't hold up in court. The reason I say that is because it's a serious matter banning someone, and shouldn't be the first option. How many times have innocent people been wrongfully imprisoned because they were mistaken for someone else? How many innocent people have you banned and alienated, for that matter?

You erased the history and the contents of the accounts in question, which has added unnecessary complications in the event of a proper investigation.

As the amount of power you have scales up in society, the level of responsibility you carry also scales proportionately. I expect a lot better from a Marxist-Leninist administrator. We're supposed to be the most educated, most competent, and most advanced politically, but also in numerous other respects.

Reason 33. “'The site has been seemingly defaced yet again' this is the only time wisconcom has been allowed in and defaced PW. He has tried getting accounts in the past, but they were all refused. Account requests are not public. Only he would know about this.”

Ok, then what is this?: https://web.archive.org/web/20230714191710/https://lemmygrad.ml/post/835854 - Oh yeah, wisconcom is back 😃 @CriticalResist8A to ProleWiki • 16 days ago

What's this all about, then? You tell everyone he's only been allowed in once, yet here you're saying he got in just over two weeks prior to this incident and started wrecking 10 pages. You even provided photographic evidence.

Are you gaslighting us? Clearly he's not the only one who would know about this.

You undermine your credibility and trust in the public eye when you either lie, or neglect to account for the relevant history of matters of interest.

Reason 44. Same with “but this game of cat and mouse with Wisconcom has become very tiresome”, we don’t talk about him ever.

How many times have you all posted about him? How many times has his name come up? How many times has he been pinned? Just do a general search for his name and have yourself an endless scroll. Don't try that with me.

Reason 55. “I propose a freeze on the creation or promotion of accounts to have edit permissions, and restrict such promotion to only those who have been around (for a good while) and earned the trust of the Lemmygrad netizens.” this is child-level wrecking stuff. a) ProleWiki is wholly independent from Lemmygrad (but wiscon seems to think we’re connected in a love triangle with GZD too) and b) ProleWiki’s policies are an internal matter.

What did I just say in the post?: I don’t know the current policies for allowing people to become editors, but this game of cat and mouse with Wisconcom has become very tiresome.

I admitted upfront I am not familiar with the process, or policies. I've also never personally made an account or requested an account on ProleWiki. I use ProleWiki for the same reason everyone else does--to learn about Marxism-Leninism. It is a critical resource that is intended to provide a public service to all, and having someone grief it affects all of us collectively in a negative way.

Why don't you show any understanding about this? Where is your compassion?

In addition, I'm not the only one interested in the policies of ProleWiki, in the context of securing the integrity of the resource and making sure it can scale when needed. These are perfectly legitimate interests.

You saying the policies are an "internal matter" when the consequences of the failures of those policies to keep infiltrators out affects everyone as an external matter is dismissive and egotistical. It reeks of hubris. Do you think Linux would be so successful if Torvalds had this attitude about the kernel?

ProleWiki isn't an internal project in some obscure Discord or Matrix server where only a few people of the "in crowd" suffer the consequences of something going wrong.

Have a look at this: https://web.archive.org/web/20230714195138/https://lemmygrad.ml/post/798887 - Traffic to prolewiki has doubled ever since we went viral on Twitter.

The project has gone viral in the past, and people who are still finding their way politically are the most vulnerable to hostile manipulation of the site. If you don't care about this, then it would bring into question your commitment to building a communist world.

If you don't like me, that's okay. If you don't believe my contributions to Lemmygrad are worth a damn, then tell me and we can discuss why. But to ban me because you sloppily jumped to conclusions purely out of impulse is just wrong.

You saw only what you wanted to see and made a huge mess with your follow-up actions. Your "reasons" are full of holes. If your argument was a submarine, you'd have ended up just like those billionaires--soup in a tin can.

If you're going to be an administrator, we all expect you to be professional and thorough in carrying out your obligations. If you can't handle the responsibility that goes with that, then let us know.

I am perfectly fine being hated for who I am, but to be hated and shamed for someone I am not is just cruel, inhumane and flat out uncalled for.

You didn't even give me a chance to defend myself, much less get to know me.

All lurkers turned contributors are going to seem suspect in some regard. That doesn't mean you simply turn into a hammer looking for nails and just decide someone is "good enough" to meet the criteria and completely erase them and all their hard work from the internet. You give them time to make names for themselves and become familiar faces around the 'grad. This should be common sense.

We're supposed to provide a service that offers better than the practices of Big Tech. You publicly humiliated and disgraced me all over a misunderstanding. Was it worth it? I've decided to make this post because I haven't given up on Lemmygrad. There's so many wonderful people here and I have always felt safe with how understanding people are, especially to the most vulnerable who need a space to vent and open up.

This is also my first time participating on any public forum like this. I never used Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, or any of the other Big Tech platforms to engage in public discourse. If you want people to feel safe, welcome, and not afraid to actually speak up when there's issues that need to be addressed and brought to your attention, maybe don't be so heavy handed and act so unilaterally without having done your homework.

I'm still quite upset, and might be for some time, but I still desire to contribute to Lemmygrad's development. If you don't want me here, then tell me why based on my actual resume, instead of just deciding to take such an infantile approach like "guh huhuh. i declare you wisconcom, lol kek banhammer go bam".

How about this time, you actually talk to me. I'm not an unreasonable person, and I'm fully willing to humble myself and admit when I'm in the wrong.

If you choose to double-down and insist upon these self-defeating practices, then I will gladly take my contributions elsewhere as Lemmygrad wouldn't be able to provide a nurturing and encouraging environment for me to help organize and share as a Marxist-Leninist.

I came here to find solidarity amongst like-minded people who share my class interests, not be bullied by an admin's negligence.

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Opinions on police? (lemmygrad.ml)
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Just curious

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In case some of you can’t see the screenshot here’s a link to the post: https://sh.itjust.works/post/1101646

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Whenever i tried to post a picture it always popped out this type of message, how do i fix this ?

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no I will not elaborate

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I don't know, man, seems kind of janky to me, with all that greyish, foggy front that seems frozen and the black font as well.

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It's basically twitter.

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Note – I authored this piece, any constructive critique or discussion is welcome.

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@sicaniv is me, same as here on lemmygrad.

This lib is trying to divert the conversation to something else, so how would you deal with such tactics.

Update: Replied. Let's see the response.

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Freedom of what? Freedom from public healthcare? Freedom to harass minorities? Freedom to exploit the working class?

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I'm not sure the best community on Lemmygrad to post this, so I am posting it here.

One of the communist YouTube channels I watched occasionally was The Red Spectre, aka Australia's communist sweetheart, and his channel is no longer existing on the platform, unfortunately. I hope it returns, or at the very least his videos are archived somewhere and will be available on another platform. Here's his channel from the Wayback Machine.

From my comment below:

I have found some videos (not just the web page, but the actual video included) from the Wayback Machine so far:

That's all I could find on the Wayback Machine. If you want to look at the eight videos I could see from here, here's the links to each:

Update:

I found a few more videos within my NewPipe subscription database.

First, here's the links of the four videos on the Wayback Machine (calendar view):

From the previous links, you may find the following videos that were successfully archived:

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Might as well go vote for Biden at this point.

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I am right now visiting my motherland, haven’t been here for a while. I talked with some of my friends/pals and we came to one interesting conversation. Somehow Russian population seems to have no interest in politics of their country and USSR has some part to play in the problem. In the USSR involvement in the politics by an average citizen was low compared to other countries, some just blindly trusted their leaders, while some were just not interested in politics. Those who blindly trusted their leaders were so sure that no one in the party would fumble something, that they simply became also not interested in the politics. In result we now have a population of people letting a guy to rule for 20+ years, basically allowing the same guy to hold power after the fall of USSR. In turn we now have a population whose interest in politics higher than the “that candidate bad cause he is X” is practically non existent. We as Russians should be blamed for our politic inactivity. While Americans are playing the two faced-same coin politics, they at least have something to choose and discuss. While Russians have only one faced plane of United Russia that holds the majority for whatever the fuck amount of time passed since it’s inception in the 90s(I guess??)

Yeah this is low quality rant from me while I was standing in a line for a museum. So please say if I am wrong in some parts. Which am probably am. I will be thankful and also interested in your replies.

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I think that hiding my political views hinders my ability to organize, so from now on I will try to stop hiding.

I told her through WhatsApp because I'm not good at face to face confrontations.

Not sure how the rest of my family will take it.

Thanks for reading 😊

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Even though the Soviet Union is long gone, we still remain. Reminder that we are all still marxists united by a common goal. Let us put aside our differences and unite as one. Only then can we cast off the shackles of capitalist and right-wing oppression. Only by working together can we raise the red flag, and crush all rightists and counterrevolutionaries who stand in our way.

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Hey, I'm not really used to sites with the link aggregator format, so I got a small question: should posts necessarily be about recent news? (Especially in the news communities). Or is it okay to repost some week-old or even month-old posts about things that went undiscussed?

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thingYou might consider it useless or a waste of time and energy, I don't care, let's just do this stuff, no need for academic level research or analyzing a whole show, just do it ig. And yes this is post an excuse for me to rant about Ben 10.

Ben 10 omniverse/introductionEveryone knows this show probably, cartoon network show about a kid who basically has an alien WMD that turns him into Aliens. I used to love the show as a kid and I started thinking about it more these days.

Show obviously falls into the power fantasy trope that other super hero shows have, but it changes depending on the writer of the episode, sometimes he's Jesus christ sometimes he's just a kid that turns into Aliens that beat other Aliens. There was a few "what if" episodes where Ben used his means who turning into a big fish for fascism or money or fame, classic superhero stuff.

Ben 10 has some political episode, there was one called "prisoner 775" which was basically an allegory for Guantanamo bay. I'll focus on Ben 10 omniverse because I'm writing this smh.

Omniverse talks about racism, immigration and Colonialism. It represents immigrants as literal Aliens who live in an underground city, they're painted as similar to humans but not equal in rights or opportunities, they've been shown to go outside and chill but there's a beauty/human lookalike privilege. There's a character in the show who's basically a right wing news anchor who's racist towards Aliens, creating hatred because he's funded by a right wing human supramacist group (the forever knights), then later in the show this racist news anchor turns into an Alien (I don't like that with the racism allegory). Then there's a few episodes on colonialism and a colonialist Alien race called the incursions or something, colonialist frogs who colonized I think three planets, Earth which was saved by Ben coming back and a revolution thing happening then the princess betraying her father to become a leader and going away with her army, The "upchuck" thingie planet which ended by them just eating the planet to make the colonizers seeth (Literally), then the third one is for later.

There was another episode where Aliens who come from a very hot planet have an extremist group who want to melt planet earth because they need it to be hotter (allegory for Sharia law prolly).

I obviously expect the show to have liberal points of view no shit but some stuff is still surprising.

The PlumbersIn the show, the Plumbers is an organisation that plays the role of intergalactic police/counter space terrorism, Ben 10 isn't a member but to connect him with them in the show are two main characters, his grandfather and his partner Rook, an extremely professional plumber... Who was shown getting information off a criminal through releasing toxic gas on an entire bar in the second episode of the show, which he gets nothing out of and the criminal gets away anyhow. Rook doesn't get punished for torture which could mean that torture is allowed or even encouraged by the plumbers because he's not supposed to be a "corrupt bad apple" he was top in his academy and a literal law nerd.

The types of criminals the organization deals with does range from a buff chicken stealing eggs to build up muscles, to basically squid Alien Adolf Hitler, the plumber prison system is clearly shown to be for punishment rather rehabilitation, as often times prisoners who do their sentence end up causing more chaos, which I guess is fine for a very small number of cases, as there's no way to rehabilitate a character who was basically Squid Alien Adolf Hitler's best buddy... BUT WHY THE FUCK MUST THEIR JAILS LOOK LIKE THIS

Another point about the plumbers is their similarity to the United States or what it pretends to be, The plumbers are protectors of worlds, saviors and bringers of peace who can do no evil, there's some characters that are shown to dislike them, but they don't show any reason to dislike other than doing illegal stuff (duck dude and the Aliens calling them redspots). The plumbers are an ethnically diverse group of pigs with all types of representation, from white people to useless Alien fellas. You might think that I'm insane and there's no way plumbers are an allegory for the writers view of the USA, but both canonically (and I wish I was making this up) were founded by George Washington, so yes the intergalactic hero police were founded by a slave owner.

The plumbers utilize complicated and resource hungry space ships, vehicles, weapons and builds military bases in planets as means of maintaining space law and order, which raises the question of funding and gaining material, could be from a space confederation thing that pays for it to maintain peace. What raises questions is why do multiple planets refuse this service for example Revoggandah and a system populated by creepy Aliens, in the show the reason painted for the creepy Aliens is that they're racist to outsiders... This leads me to believe that the plumbers probably use materials from the planets they build bases in.

RevoggandahThis is the third planet that got colonized in Omniverse, I've kept it for itself because I feel there is much to unpack. The people of this planet are shown to be simple farmers who lack advanced technology and live off the only plant that grows in their planet which can be used for food, clothes, building and most importantly as a fuel source. This planet is clearly supposed to represent a third world country rich in natural resources.

In an episode of the show the planet gets colonized, the people are turned into slave workers using a brain controlling device (which if you want to make it an allegory for propaganda then it is) and the natural resources of the planet are being depleted at an extreme rate. Ben 10 then comes and saves the day destroys the mind control thingie and helps the people defeat colonialism hooray.

The colonialism in the episode is painted as a bad thing which is good, because classic colonialism is bad. But another issue is that Rook (the plumber torturer guy from earlier) is a native to this planet, which makes him seen as a traitor to his planet by the elders and an idol by his younger siblings who want to become plumbers.

Now the thing is that it's completely fine for the people of the planet to basically not want to become a space NATO base and possibly have their resources be depleted by them, but the show represents the dislike towards plumbers using an elder of the planet who is seen as outdated and too much in the old ways of tradition. This is basically straw manning resistance of neocolonialism as old people not wanting the world to change.

conclusionAlthough ben 10 omniverse does a good job at representing the struggles of immigrants in a new country and facing racism and oppression, It has a false perfect view of the USA which is expected ig.

noteI've probably made some mistakes in this or have too fangirlish idk.

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