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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/WarDEagle on 2024-11-08 05:54:20+00:00.


Despite being buried in the archives with only 78 votes after being posted four years ago, this original post regularly receives reports. 49 in recent weeks, to be exact. Whoever is upset about its existence seems to be confused as to why exactly it shouldn't remain live, as they've tried reporting for everything from "involuntary pornography" to "political discussion" to "it threatens violence." What is clear, though, is that someone is abusing the report button to harass the r/cars mod team into taking down the post. If you, friendly r/cars reader, or you, serial report button user, haven't figure it out yet, that's not going to happen.

While r/cars no longer allows "consumer reports" type posts, we did four years ago. Regardless of the post category, we feel strongly that

  1. if you have an opinion that takes issue with the content of a post the correct way to handle that is to engage in discussion in the comments and
  2. if you feel that a post breaks the subreddit rules you can report but are well served by reaching out to the moderation team via mod mail to discuss. Using the report button is encouraged and useful when a post or comment obviously breaks the rules, but we can't read your mind, so when it's not obvious you have to give us more context.

So, the original post stays up in addition to this new one. If anyone would like to discuss it with the mod team, please send us a mod mail. If the contextless reports continue, both posts will stay up and maybe we'll find some new ways to bring visibility to them both.

Here's the body of the original post for your own information. Do with this information what you will.

Do not buy a manual from this site. The product I bought was advertised as a fully printable PDF-file, instead I got a strange OVA file (virtual machine file). I looked up what other people had said about these manuals and it certainly wasn't anything normal. I did not download the file.

Their refund policy states that I can cancel my purchase in 14 days starting from the purchase date, and so I tried to do. But they are REFUSING to give me a refund, just telling me that it is only avaliable in an OVA format when the website clearly says PDF.

I used PayPal to pay, so hopefully they will help me get my money back, but no luck yet.

Don't bother with these people.

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/Ok_Top55 on 2025-08-09 06:31:28+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/Redeemed_Expert9694 on 2025-08-09 06:09:28+00:00.


How I got the Car

In late 2015, my uncle, who has always been a car enthusiast, was shopping for a new car since he felt his 2013 911 Carrera S was a bit too flashy and wanted something more discreet for going to work and zipping around town.

His search criteria were simple: a nice interior, a long list of features, and a price under 40k. After some shopping, he ended up picking a Kia Optima SXL. During this same period, he often travelled a lot overseas for work, which meant he quite often left the Optima in my care to make sure it didn't sit for too long and made it to its service appointments. I, 17 at the time, was sadly deemed too inexperienced for the 911 (which was left with my older cousin).

Between January and April 2016, the Optima was kinda my daily transport, which was nice. I didn't own a car back then and mainly relied on walking, biking, or getting a ride from one of my friends with a car. If I ever really needed to drive, I could borrow my dad's '06 Azera or my mom's '09 Aspen. While I appreciate those cars for what they were now, back then, both seemed very boring, so driving around a new techy car like the Optima in my last year of high school felt pretty damn good.

Fast forward to the summer of 2019, I had returned home from university and was searching for my own car. I was thinking of getting a used Civic or Mazda3, but my uncle offered me his Optima outright. His reasoning was pretty simple; he was barely driving the car now.

He still had his Carrera S, his wife’s Audi S4, and, since late 2018, he had bought an LC200 for his growing family. As a result, the Kia was driven perhaps once or twice a month, and despite being three and a half years old, it still had below 6k miles. Needless to say, I accepted immediately.

What's Good

From day one, the interior and tech impressed me the most. Even by today's standards, it remains nice. The car is loaded with features such as a 360 camera, ventilated and heated Nappa leather seats, Harman Kardon audio, a panoramic sunroof, four-way lumbar adjustment, and a suite of advanced safety technologies that were not common even in higher-end vehicles back in 2016.

When compared to top trim Camrys and Accords of the era, the Optima was noticeably more premium in terms of interior quality and design. This is not an opinion, it's a fact.

After several years of ownership, I have a solid grasp of where the car excels and where it shows its age. It remains exceptionally comfortable and quiet, with all the features still working exactly as they should. Reliability has also been excellent, with only two unplanned issues in nearly a decade: a clogged drain in 2022 and a bizarre issue last summer where the automatic headlights began activating in daylight. Both were resolved under warranty in less than an hour. Aside from those, it has only accumulated the usual wear: some dings, a few paint chips, and the occasional rattle from the pano roof.

What's Not Good

As for its shortcomings, the Optima does without a single sporty steel beam in its unibody. The suspension is soft, which I personally welcome, but the steering is so light and numb that it feels as though this car becomes mildly depressed at the thought of sporty driving. The 6-speed auto is a lethargic, occasionally stubborn companion that resists downshifts. In day-to-day use, it behaves acceptably, delivering smooth shifts, but urgency is not its strong suit. This trait is shared by nearly every Hyundai/Kia product fitted with this transmission. The slow shifting is made a bit more annoying by the turbo lag of the 2.0L turbo. That being said, I would still take this transmission over many of Hyundai’s DCTs, as at the very least, the 6-speed auto has a good reliability record.

Where the Camry and Accord of this era do hold an undisputed advantage is in their powertrains. I think Hyundai/Kia should have followed Toyota and Honda's lead and dropped the 3.3L V6 in the Optima and Sonata as the larger engine option instead of the 2.0L Turbo.

Somehow, despite having more cylinders, the V6-powered Accord and Camry manage to get better fuel economy than the Optima’s four-banger. Just last week, I averaged a lamentable 21 MPG, though under normal conditions I tend to hover around 24-27.

The Optima SXL was kinda positioned as the semi-premium offering, and as such, it had a slightly higher price than top Accords and Camrys when it launched. This philosophy was due to the early and mid-2010s being before Genesis truly got off the ground, thus Hyundai and Kia were still kinda tinkering with the idea of selling luxury cars in the lineup (Case in point: Equus, Hyundai Genesis, Kia K900, SXL versions of the Optima, Sorento, Cadenza, etc)

I believe Hyundai’s 3.3L V6 could have transformed a pretty good car into a truly great one. Adding AWD would have further complemented it and allowed the Optima to truly push upmarket. I'm guessing this never occurred as Hyundai wanted to protect the Cadenza, which was essentially a larger Optima with the 3.3L V6. Because of this, I think sooner or later the Cadenza will likely be recognized as a hidden gem, thanks to the durability of that 3.3L and the fact that most were sold to older owners who likely maintained them well.

My last note about the engine is fuel economy. Somehow, despite having more cylinders, the V6-powered Accord and Camry manage to achieve better fuel economy than the Optima’s four-banger. Just last week, I averaged a lamentable 18 MPG, though under normal conditions I tend to hover around 23-26.

Verdict

At this point, I’m not actively looking to replace it. This car has been with me through countless experiences and holds a special place in my memories. From long road trips to navigating rush hour traffic, and from late-night classes to outings with family and friends, my Optima has been a steadfast companion.

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/Mammoth-Wrangler-106 on 2025-08-08 07:46:06+00:00.


Garagisti and Co unveiled the GP1 on August 7; An 800 horsepower NA Manual V12, with only 25 examples to be produced.

Inspired by the iconic wedge supercars from the 80s to the 2000s, the GP1 is Garagisti’s “interpretation of an alternate analogue, driver-focused future.”

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/Aetius3 on 2025-08-09 01:19:51+00:00.


This is from Jan but it gives an idea: Nobody's buying Toyota Crown Signia, but I like it

I saw another post here about Toyota sales figures YTD US market: US Toyota Sales by Model (June 2025 vs 2024) : r/Toyota

I don't get it. The RAV4 is going to sell more copies than a new Backstreet Boys Album in 1997. I'm sure it's nice, although I personally found it kinda plastic-ey. The C. Signia is genuinely good-looking, comes in nice colours, has a really nice interior but nobody is buying it. It's true that the C. Signia is more expensive but even then, the sales are way too low. I don't expect it to sell 300,000 units but...1000 versus 37,000 in June 2025. Yikes.

Anyone have one? Anyone cross-shop one? Thoughts? I've seen maybe 3 on the streets in Toronto.

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/lazarus870 on 2025-08-09 00:31:09+00:00.


I used to live in the middle of a busy city with an enthusiast car, and I found that it was difficult to get out, even on weekends, to do some spirited driving. It would take more than an hour to access some decent roads, and dealing with all the congestion in and out of the city sucked the fun out of it.

Then I moved a little bit further out, and for a few years it was bliss - light traffic to get anywhere, and some nice back roads to drive on.

But as time goes on, and the population continues to boom (new developments everywhere, road projects lasting years) it seems that's less and less attainable. I find that I have to either leave ridiculously early, or go late at night, to get some spirited driving in. Seems all weekdays are off limits due to construction and road work, and weekends the roads are narrowed as they are shut down for improvements, and everybody's trying to get to the lake or wherever at the same time.

I guess that's part of life and living in an urban environment. But it kind of makes me want to throw in the towel of having a spirited vehicle. Is it the same around where you are? If so, how do you cope with it? Moving isn't an option right now.

I have found some peace in riding my road bike - get the same fun feeling and the bike lanes are empty, but I miss taking the car out and enjoying it

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/Dazzling-Rooster2103 on 2025-08-08 19:04:34+00:00.

Original Title: The 230i can be optioned with a 360⁰ parking assist, but the M2 can't to protect M4 sales. What are some other obvious things manufacturers have done to nerf a car to make sure another model keeps selling?


I always find it funny that on a $40k 230i, you can chose to get the 360 Camera parking assist, but on the M2 they remove a lot of options to try and protect the M4 sales numbers.

What are some other obvious examples of this?

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/spiketeam on 2025-08-08 16:55:33+00:00.


I think there is a real dearth of good NSX NC1 content after the original wave of reviewers had their go at them. In particular none of the folks lived with them on a long term basis. This includes daily driving, regular canyon drives, track use etc and the NSX feels like one of those cars which would be greatly appreciated as time goes on and it becomes a bit more affordable. They are already getting close to the 100k mark on BAT etc.

Zygrene is filling that dearth with his recent NSX NC1 purchase

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/trucker-123 on 2025-08-08 17:49:22+00:00.

Original Title: Honda Is Giving Up on the All-Electric Dream - Citing massive losses and a cooling market, the Japanese auto giant is backing away from an all-electric future in a huge blow to the EV industry and a sign that the road to clean cars just got a lot bumpier.

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/DrFuckwad on 2025-08-08 17:26:55+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/No_Skirt_6002 on 2025-08-08 15:24:17+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/Dazzling-Rooster2103 on 2025-08-08 15:17:47+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/Sixteen-Cylinders on 2025-08-08 14:18:58+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/lostboyz on 2025-08-08 13:32:02+00:00.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTQAasG_qk8

Lingenfelter Camaro SS 1LE...it really doesn't get much better than that and who better to review it?

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/Cristiano1 on 2025-08-08 13:27:02+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/LimitedReach on 2025-08-08 13:07:36+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/DocPhilMcGraw on 2025-08-07 20:33:15+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/Aetius3 on 2025-08-08 01:41:24+00:00.


Every new Honda, Audi, VW, BMW especially. They make them on the same line and put them in every model. You still see some unique interiors in different models in cars from Hyundai, Nissan, Benz, Kia to some extent I think. I get it...cost saving. And I'm not saying the interior of a Civic has to be radically different from that of a Pilot. But they don't have to be the exact same. VW has that exact same gauge cluster and glued on iPad dash in every car.

I really appreciate how unique the dash of the new Palisade is. It doesn't look like the dash inside any other Hyundai. We pay a lot of money for cars these days...at least make the effort to give us something fresh and unique...even if not by a LOT, at least try.

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/NISMO1968 on 2025-08-07 20:45:41+00:00.

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Dodge will be showing off a new car tomorrow, and on instagram in a Broadcast Channel they created called "Brotherhood of Muscle" https://www.instagram.com/channel/AbZWxJ2QCIGzxrcz/

They posted a sound clip of a hellcat whine with the caption "Get ready...it's about to get loud."

Here is the video for those that don't have instagram, and still want to hear it.

https://imgur.com/a/sFVKdpx

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