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I couldn't remember what "phatic" meant so I looked it up. And then I found a NYT article that I really liked.

Phatic expression

In linguistics, a phatic expression (English: FAT-ik) is a communication which primarily serves to establish or maintain social relationships.


archive.today • Hihowareya? We Asked, and You Answered - The New York Times

By Emily S. Rueb

May 24, 2010

When you ask someone "how are you," do you really care?

As Jennifer Seager wrote in this weekend's Complaint Box in the Metropolitan section, people don't.

"Where was I on the day that "hihowareya" became one long word devoid of meaning? I must be asked at least 10 times a day how I am, but I have yet to find one person who actually wants to know. This drives me absolutely crazy."

"I had not realized how much the pointlessness of this much-repeated phrase annoyed me until last summer," she wrote, "when I came upon a lady on the street who was walking with her head down. As we approached each other, she suddenly looked up and asked 'Hihowareya?' I was pleasantly surprised by this sudden inquiry about my well-being. But before my brain could conjure up an answer, she had walked right on by."

It's a strangely meaningless gesture that one should never extend during a time of grieving or sickness, but many readers sought to ascribe a deeper meaning to this seemingly innocuous phrase.

Anyone who has learned a Romance language knows that this greeting has a textbook reply, but Americans have yet to adopt a uniform response, which drives English scholars and protectors of the language mad. The response should be "very well, thank you." But others say it's a vestige of a bygone era, when men wore bowler caps and ladies carried dainty umbrellas to shield their delicate skin from the sun's rays. But like many of these dressed-up customs and traditions in our culture, "How do you do?" has come to be like a silent consonant in our loud vernacular.

But maybe it's a geographic thing, as a few Texans suggested. Away from the coasts, they say, the gesture is accepted with grace and aplomb. It's also very American. One reader pointed out that in Chinese, a common way of saying hello is to ask if you've eaten. But you're not expected to answer.

Still, the greeting is a ritual courtesy. "It's not designed to elicit your true state of mind or body, in which nobody but friends and family (and not always them) is interested," wrote SKV. "The response is, 'Finehowryou?' and you don't have to wait for details."

Here, unedited, are several comments we especially liked:

An Invitation

I always take the question at face value and give a hearty but polite assessment of my current state of being. Then I return the question, and nearly every person responds with their own self-report, old guys with ironed-in frowns being the chief exception. Such exchanges always make me feel good. Courtesy isn't dead, exactly, just in hiding, waiting for an invitation.

I may sound pollyanna. Wrong. I'm a cynical ad copywriter. But a world of people is what I've got, so I make the best of it.

— J

Goodnyou

The answer to "Hihowareya?" is "Goodnyou?"

No need to work yourself into a snit about it.

— Kimiko

Phatic Communication

The author is describing what linguists classify as "phatic communication" or "small talk." No need to get upset. It's a way of greeting each other. Perhaps the best response is "Do you really want to know?" If the answer is yes, then the conversation can become "emphatic."

— T.G.

A Harmless Greeting

I'm with #16 — while the perso asking may not really care about my answer, I do appreciate the acknowledgment that someone other than them exists.

We walk about NY everyday whipping right by people who could – if we stopped for one second – end up being good friends, colleagues, old school friends, etc etc.

If someone considers saying the short "hihowareya", I'm okay with that — it creates a split second connection that could do a lot of people a lot of good.

— Nas

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We were having a great convo about voting, then he dabbed, called me old and said skibidi toilet on his way out the door. Smdh my damn head.

Kids these days.

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Ok so i learned about a person coming out as non binary recently and this reminded me of my confusion about (i think they're called rolling pronouns) she/they and he/they specifically.

I have looked around at some sites speaking to it but none of them have made it clear to me whether use of "her" or "him" instead of "theirs" in the case of someone who wishes for (s)he/they is misgendering.

I had (mis)understood before that (s)he/they meant they were fine with either their gendered pronoun AND the gender free option, but am i way off base? Is the "they" not an option?

Apologies if this is breaking rules or has been answered, i didn't see anything on the sidebar so here goes nothin...

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Maybe those go hand-in-hand but when I tell you it’s bad, it’s bad. I am the person who is clowned for not recognizing x country on a map

What would be the best way to complete such a feat

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Does anyone have good news sources? I am pretty wary of swallowing the state department line that this is all due to “gang violence”… particularly given how racially coded that language is, and when I read into the stories it says they’re mostly attacking government and police buildings. I see embassy personnel are being airlifted. Mainly trying to figure out who are the factions/what is going on

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A social democrat friend who knows basically nothing about socialism and was a berniecrat is looking for book recommendations, what is a good book to recommend to him?

I sort of dived in the deep end when I first started (perhaps unproductively ) and I they're the type of person who would probably benefit a lot from nice prose and nothing SUPER heavy, but I also know a lot of intro books are full of BS that needs to be deprogrammed later(especially stuff that includes left-anticommunism) so I'm being cautious.

What would you recommend?

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The Amazon Labor Twitter hasn't posted since April 2022. They have so far been unsuccessful in unionizing any other Amazon facilities. According to this article, the union's funding has dried up since 2022, and workers in the ALU sued the union for alleged anti-democratic practices in 2023.

Is it over for them?

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I'm American but I can't think of one.

Cock and bull story

"Cock and bull story" is an English-language idiom for a far-fetched and fanciful story or tale of highly dubious validity. It is often used to describe a description of events told by someone who is being deceitful or giving an excuse, perhaps unconvincingly. The first recorded use of the phrase in English was in John Day's 1608 play Law-trickes or Who Would Have Thought It:

What a tale of a cock and a bull he told my father.

These folk etymologies are cock and bull stories. "It is said" might as well be written as "This colorful explanation is a cock and bull story".

The inns on Watling Street

The Cock and the Bull inns in Stony Stratford were staging posts for rival coach lines on Watling Street, the London–Birmingham turnpike road. It is said that local people, regarding the passengers staying at the inns as a source of news, were told fanciful stories; there was even rivalry between the two inns as to who could tell the most outlandish story.

These inns are still in existence: the Cock Hotel is documented to have existed [in one form or another] on the current site since at least 1470; the present building dates from 1742. The history of The Bull is less well documented but is certainly older than 1600; the present building is "late eighteenth century".

According to another source, the rival inns were in Fenny Stratford, a nearby town also on Watling Street, but no such hostelries exist there today. There is no reliable support for the Watling Street etymology of the phrase.

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hoping for some basic, short answers from the socialist perspective before i have to look at big books like literally called "The National Question in Yugoslavia"

for context i understand basically nothing about post-ottoman developments in the balkans, so feel free to start with what the fuck a 'Yugoslavia' was supposed to be before socialism too.

stalin-heart thanks in advance you wise Hexbeariens

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I know some people who watch leftish content (mostly just for entertainment) on YouTube and when those people tell me something makes them mad, my first instinct is to encourage them to do something on the end.

When I hear those types of reactions, I almost look at it like theory through an entirely different medium. Does that make sense or is this just a case where I should let people enjoy things

My Roman Empire

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Hey comrades I know that most of you are wondering where did the greatest memer on hexbear go. Well it's a long story. After I reactivated my account by short time I was half out outed as trans, for context I am from Iraq, I logically deleted everything before I was fully outed and got all of my documents in line, I have realized that I need to get out of this country what I need your help and support, I most likely will be going to Canada, but I don't know a lot of comrades there, I don't have knowledge about any organizations, and I most definitely don't have any money, so if you are able to help in any way please contact.

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So many libs keep telling me if I don’t vote for Biden that Trump will pass all these anti-trans laws that Biden and the Democrats would of course have stopped. I tell them my trans comrades on Hexbear all say I shouldn’t vote for Biden but these libs just keep asking for the proper documentation.

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It was long distance.... we would talk for like 8 hours a day sometimes. One time we talked for 14 hours out of the day. (Had phone sex a few times)

And then poof I long on today and she deleted her telegram account.

Right after giving me a huge list of book reccomendations and everything. To read and listen to

She did speak about getting worried we were getting romantic for each other too quickly and that we were getting too invested in each other. We had a connection she said but that I should focus on my drug treatment and her on her studies

I just don't know why she randomly deleted it... the only thing I can think is that she knew that's the only way she could stop us

Hurts guys it really really hurts. I'm about to cry

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How the f*uck do I find out what the third-person singular pronouns of ancient languages sounded like and what the f*uck do I do with sign languages

And perhaps easier for people here to answer: What are the gender-neutral or non-binary pronouns of your native languages? What are the histories of these pronouns? Even if it isn't a language of Europe it'd be interesting to hear about.

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Am I right in thinking there's always been something to this? As VP, Biden got his failson a cushy job (that AFAIK he wasn't at all qualified for) at a natural gas company in Ukraine, one of the most corrupt countries in Europe.

Is it just American lib tribalism that prevents them from saying this was not completely on the level, since it's mostly Trumpers going on about Hunter Biden? Obviously they've made up some bullshit too, but the Burisma thing to me is undeniable. I'm assuming there's an element of "Ukraine can't be criticized" at this point too.

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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/2017860

Just to clarify, I don't believe any of the following arguments and I'm fairly sure they're all bullshit, but I'd like to bolster my understanding of how to refute them the next time I see them.

These are all paraphrased or "steelmanned" (as opposed to strawmanned) versions of arguments I've encountered elsewhere on the internet.

  1. Israel does not unilaterally blockade the Gaza strip all by themselves; Egypt also has a border with Gaza and also participates in the blockade, and yet pro-Palestinians never seem to allocate any of the blame to Egypt, they always put it entirely on Israel. This is unfair and possibly antisemitic.
  2. In 1948, the Zionists allowed Arabs who didn't fight against them to stay in their homes and become citizens of Israel. This population of Arabs became known as the "48-Arabs", and they and their descendants are still citizens of Israel today. The fact that the Zionists accepted these people into their new state proves that the Zionists were not aiming to ethnically cleanse all Arabs and that Israel is not a racist state, or at least not a foundationally racist one. If the Arab Palestinian militants of 1948 had just done what the 48-Arabs had done instead of starting a war, they and their descendants would also be full citizens of Israel today.
  3. Western pro-Palestinian advocates make a critical error when they assume that Palestinians are primarily concerned with "civil rights". The main thing that motivates Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza (as opposed to Arab Muslim citizens of Green Line ‘48 Israel) is not their lack of "civil rights" (which are a largely Western notion, after all), it's that they resent Israel's existence as a non-Muslim-dominated society in what they see as "Muslim lands". They do not desire a secular democratic state with equal civil rights for all, they desire a Muslim controlled, sharia law state in which they can dominate Jews as a persecuted minority of second class citizens (dhimmi, infidels) or just drive Jews out entirely at their whim. Maybe in 1948 the Arab population of Palestine would have been satisfied with a secular, democratic state, but unfortunately extremist Islam has become a much more prevalent ideology since then and has changed the political equation.
  4. During the period of the British Mandate of Palestine (roughly 1910s to 1940s), Jewish immigrants improved the living standards of the region and initiated a lot of new economic activity. As a result, many Arab Muslims from neighboring regions like Egypt, Syria, and Jordan immigrated to the Mandate of Palestine because they were attracted by the new economic opportunities, and today's Palestinians in Gaza & the West Bank are largely descended from these Mandate-era Arab immigrants. Given that their ancestors came to Palestine at about the same time that Zionist Jews did (and in some cases later), their claims of having a superior right to the land of Palestine over Israeli Jews don't make sense. (example of this argument can be found here and here)
  5. Often pro-Palestinian advocates say that "Western countries should have accepted Jewish refugees in the 20th century instead of pressuring them to go to Palestine." This is true on a surface level, indeed a lot of things would have gone better if powerful Western countries had done that. But alas, they didn't, and that wasn't something that the Jews of the time had control over either way. Therefore the Jews who settled in Palestine at that time can't really be blamed for what they did, they were just looking out for themselves in the absence of any benevolent world power who would take them in.
  6. Pro-Palestinians misunderstand the Haavara agreement and overstate its importance. The fact that the Haavara agreement occurred does not prove that Zionists supported Nazism, or vice versa. If the Haavara agreement "proves" anything, it is simply that for a few years the Zionists had just enough political leverage with the Nazis & British to help out some fraction of German Jews as their situation in Germany was becoming more precarious, and the Zionists took the opportunity to do this while they could. This does not at all prove that the Zionists "supported the Holocaust/allowed it to happen" or anything like that, and the fact that some pro-Palestinians interpret it that way is really rather disappointing.
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Extremely depressed about someone I'm getting too close too and I know I need to push them away before one of us gets hurt.

Hopefully the rest of yall are doing better

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It's lathe time baby lets-fucking-go

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When looking up the pot on a reverse google image search it pulls up this museum page. The pots look near identical though the markings are different

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