GenZedong

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This is a Dengist community in favor of Bashar al-Assad with no information that can lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton, our fellow liberal and queen. This community is not ironic. We are Marxists-Leninists.

Serious posts can be posted here and/or in /c/GenZhou.

We have a Matrix homeserver and a Matrix space. See this thread for more information.

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So days after Victoria Nuland visits Sri Lanka, a possible colour revolution attempt launches there and a soft coup with alledged assassination attempt in Pakistan happens.

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First of all, I want to say that it's wonderful to see all of you here, and your critical support of the nation I proudly call home. But more and more recently, especially reading through Chinese internet too, there has been a sense of overconfidence and overglorification of China. It is honestly a little worrying at times for me, because as much as I love my homeland and is proud of what we are doing, I know full and well that we are still a long way to go. I see this sentiment of China being the glorious land far away as a bastion and utopia against Western Imperialism and while there's a lot of truth behind that sentiment, and I definitely understand why one not living in China would choose to believe this (I live in the US now and I understand your pain, fellow US comrades). I just want to remind everyone to exercise dialectal materialism on this subject and try to look at China in a less idealised way. We cannot grow to be better without recognising our mistakes. Anyways that is my little message to you all. Have a nice day!

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If you guys don't mind me asking. I am curious where are you guys from?

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Yeah yeah, socialism and communism is good whatever... The true question is... How do I stop being so horny? This is a big problem communism and socialism will have to solve.

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They have no interest in dialogue, and they have been consistently attacking us, our communities, and harassing our members.

Let's use this post to share threads which we could intervene with comments, not attacking anyone but by unironically responding to their arguments, engage with each other's comments, upvoting, imperializing EnoughCommieSpam into becoming a new GenZedong.

This will piss off many anti-communists and we will have fun in the process. It's a win-win.

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The revolution against hentai has begun, no more artist exploitation!

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submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by Ancient_Might_5820@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml
 
 

Especially yesterday, lemmygrad wasn't loading at all; salty libs are finding new ways to "brigade" us lmao. To any liberal lurkers: fuck you, Communism will win, 中国共产党万岁!

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I really stepped in it last night. My partner is livid with me for suggesting Stalin wasn't the evil dictator he's made out to be in the west. For a German who grew up with anti-communism and went to some very liberal universities for political science it was too much. They said something to the effect of "this feels exactly like if you said, oh Hitler wasn't that bad, he was actually a good guy." We're in the midst of planning our wedding and they were suddenly at the point of doubting that they know who I am and if this is a relationship they want to maintain.

We have a hard time discussing politics as it is. We are still not so great at interpreting the nuances of way each other speaks, and our background knowledge is very different. So we have to figure out what we do from here.

I can't come at this from the direction of "trying to convert them." They already think I have gone into a conspiracy theory ridden and propaganda laden hole, and believe me, I ask myself the same thing every day. It really weighs heavily on me, as some of our close family members have fallen into conspiracy theory echo chambers.

We've decided we need to go back to basics and make sure our core values align, which I genuinely believe they do. They're an anti-capitalist as well, although don't have a strong idea of what to would be better, just that it shouldn't be communism.

I'm not sure where to go after we sort out what our shared values are.

There's a certain condescension I sense when it comes to the leftist sources I read, many on recommendation from GenZedong members. I'm often met with "leftists just make up all kinds of stuff to suit their narrative," or "how do you know that's a primary or reliable secondary source, it's so easy to fake anything these days." Meanwhile they go to Wikipedia and see that Stalin killed millions and signed a treaty with the Nazis, even as they understand that much of western capitalist media is propaganda as well. We can't have any useful discussion on current events at the moment because we have vastly different knowledge of what's happening, as well as entirely different analytical tools to pick it apart with.

They're also terrified I'm going to say very extreme things in front of their family (privileged petite bourgeois liberals). I try to be careful but at the same time I won't pretend to not be a communist. We have political discussions often and I'm not one to just sit those out. I'm sure my family would react poorly as well, but with the geographical distance to them it's not as present an issue in our minds.

How do you all deal with this? How do you have these discussions and share these ideas with the more soc-dem or liberal minded people in your lives?

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A foreword

As /r/genzedong stands in the shadow of Reddit's raised fist, our community faces tough choices about how to address the situation. Reddit is one of the most valuable resources we have; its large user base and integrated community allows for targeted outreach, education, and agitation. On the other hand, the ubiquity and popularity that Reddit currently enjoys is not evergreen. Reddit, as a noble house in our modern, digital feudalism, will eventually be exhausted by the broader contradiction of which it is a part: that between the masses of internet users and tech companies' centralized, feudal control. This process is already underway, as seen by developments in Web 3.0 and federated forum structures like lemmy.ml.

Nevertheless, there is still much more runway for these contradictions to sharpen before the change becomes qualitative and we enter a new epoch of digitally represented commons. So, given our position at this stage in the contradiction, we must facilitate its resolution by establishing stable channels by which we can shepherd our comrades into decentralized communities like lemmygrad.ml. We must recognize both aspects and bridge them - investing in lemmygrad.ml at the same time that we maintain a focused yet sufficiently nebulous presence on Reddit that, at key moments and places, offers a path away from its feudal lands.

Freedom from the feudal structure also allows us to overcome the barrier between in-person organizing and digital organizing. While there is no replacement for concrete action inside a united party in the real world, it would be folly to neglect how the nature of the commons have shifted as our technology and society has developed. Federated forums are helpful infrastructure and may play a key role in developing scalable party communications and outreach.

Join us at lemmygrad.ml to help.

Discussion

Right now, the bulk of the activity on Lemmygrad is happening in one community: lemmygrad.ml/c/genzedong. This is expected and completely normal. We are in the immediate aftermath of a mass exodus away from one of the last large, explicit bastions of anti-imperialism and communism on Reddit, and in our haste to settle we have made and populated /c/genzedong, and, in doing so, recreated the home we were familiar with: an all-purpose hub designed to be a seat of ML engagement. However, while familiar, many unfavorable structural features forced upon us by merely existing on Reddit have carried over with us. We became desensitized to the less-than-ideal compromises we made to have a presence on Reddit, and, now that we have stepped outside into greener pastures, our eyes have not quite adjusted to the new opportunities to aid our cause. Let's accelerate the acclimation!

TL;DR: We are no longer constrained from things as simple as outletting frustration by wishing death on Nazis to the more impactful, such as the freedom to actively organize and educate. There are myriad new ways we can better equip ourselves for the long fight with the tools and technology Lemmy's federalized structure offers us. We should lean into these changes quickly.

To contribute to this process (which is happening and will continue to happen whether or not we expedite it), I will outline a niche of optimization yet unexplored:

Why Lemmygrad is more than a simple /r/genzedong replacement.

Lemmygrad is an instance of the Lemmy structure. Lemmy instances can be thought of as what subreddits would be if they were hosted on their own separate domain/websites. More accurately, you can also think of Lemmy instances as what Reddit would look like if you could just copy Reddit's code, buy a domain, and make your own version of Reddit that you own and administrate, instead of some large company in San Fransisco that can delete you and your forum off of their site for stating that there was no massacre in Tiananmen Square. Consequently, we need to treat Lemmygrad as if we stumbled upon an unoccupied yet functional Reddit domain, with full subreddit capability.

We are no longer forced to view /c/genzedong as a catch-all forum for every possible ML post, as a de-facto standard-bearer and home for those posts that have no better place to be posted. As we grow, we should periodically fracture off posts by purpose into new, focused communities.

Among some already-implemented ideas to spark this transition:

What You Should Do Right Now

  • Join Lemmygrad if you haven't already!
  • Browse through Lemmygrad's ever-growing list of communities (subreddit equivalents) and subscribe to and engage with those that interest you.
  • Create your own communities to fill important niches we were prevented from imagining at Reddit.
  • Cross-post between communities to give posts in smaller, specified communities visibility in the most popular communities, like lemmygrad.ml/c/genzedong
  • Produce high quality content natively in Lemmygrad, then link to it on targeted Reddit subs to draw in more users
  • Link this post to all places that contain people disenfranchised and disillusioned by Reddit's looming ban of /r/genzedong (e.g. Reddit, Discord, Telegram, Element, etc...). We need to advertise why Lemmygrad is more than just a knock-off subreddit replacement that will be forgotten about in a month. Moreover, we should aim towards reaching appreciation of the unique opportunities Lemmy presents for the people already inside the community.

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  • Browse Lemmy's current app offerings. Likely due to a large influx of new accounts and activity, some instance behaviors are unusable on the apps and many users, including myself, have been using the Lemmy web app on our phone's browsers in the meantime!

Lastly, stay patient - this transition was a long time coming, and it will take weeks if not months for our community to adapt to the new demands and realities and eventually stabilize. For instance, there have been significant periods of downtime where Lemmygrad has been unusable, either due to increased traffic or DDOS efforts (instance behavior on mobile apps has also been unusable, even when the site is accessible). While solutions to these issues do occur, they do not happen overnight. Hang in there :)

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I don’t know how these roaches made it here but they are here, they know they can’t comment without getting destroyed lol so they are constantly down voting

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We need a sub dedicated to bot building, trolling and brigading effectively. Screw morals, or decency. They're tools that maintain the status quo. What strategy would allow us to get as much bang for our buck?

  1. We need to build up a basic set of arguments that would be the most effective in convincing each political position to our cause. Eg. Different arguments would be more effective against anarchist than conservative latinos.

  2. Build bots that would enable would most reliably disperse those arguments. Spamming is not that great of a method.

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Any Cubans in here? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by RojitaDeCuba@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml
 
 

I'm Cuabn myself, always liked international debate. I know it is not very likely to find a Cuban around anglo-speaking platforms such as Reddit or this one, I'm just asking around.

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Does this mean, we don't have to follow certain rules and we can conduct massive raid reddit operation? We can literally do that since there is no rule about that.

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Leftypol? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by Trailerparktankie@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml
 
 

Hi comrade's given the news on r/GenZedong I've talked with some participants on Leftypol. I'm not here on a official basis just as a user over there. Anyways I'd like to invite you guys to come over there, we are a little different and honestly to have some chan culture inside of us but are a stringently communist community! We're hoping to be comrades and allies to Lemmy we are stronger together!

https://leftypol.org/leftypol/catalog.html

To post don't feel the need to put in name email... Just type a comment and hit reply! For a post add a pic in file extension. For more info https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/742065.html

good luck hope to see you over there.

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How are you all

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shamelessly stolen from hexbear

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submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by Grace@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml
 
 

Since we're not on Reddit I can say this. Get fucked Reddit admins, communism will win.

I wish luck to the lemmy admins working overtime for this and to the new users to get used to this place.

Here are some links.

Telegram:

https://t.me/real_genZedong (official GZD telegram)

Discord:

https://www.discord.gg/genzedong (official Discord)

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interface is smoother, i got immediate replies from admins on a question, plus there's not a bunch of random bullshit all over the place

vibing with lemmy

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