Fediverse

Tens of thousands of people have signed up for KBin and Lemmy accounts since I first published "Don’t tell people “it’s easy”," hundreds of new instances have been created, and "the threadiverse" is suddenly a hot topic of conversation.... Of course, it hasn't all gone smoothly, but the opportunity isn't going away.

cross-posted from: https://news.cosocial.ca/post/356

An example of gathering extended information about the servers / organizations that run Fediverse Galaxies.

People are welcome to add their own organizations, and it is available at the link provided as a set of browsable web pages, as well as a JSON feed for consuming programmatically.

RSS is also available for people who want to learn about new orgs as they get created.

The repo is here: https://github.com/CoSocial-Canada/FediverseGalaxies

This still needs the schema for orgs to be fleshed out, and then displayed on the post pages in a way that is visible.

Background

@liaizon@wake.st made a post about what they are calling Fediverse Galaxies -- organizations that run more than one fedi-service https://social.wake.st/@liaizon/110566074350880589

Much like CoSocial is experimenting with a Lemmy instance as well as the main Mastodon one.

I pointed out that more information about the orgs involved could be interesting:

What is the organization type? How is it governed? How is it funded? How is it moderated? How can members get involved? — those are some of the important questions.

I suggested a GitHub based "API" site, which is what this is.

Just Nodes vs Networked Communities

This whole thread about the two main modalities for the future of the fediverse by @lrhodes is really worth reading:
https://merveilles.town/@lrhodes/110555014534253768 @fediverse #fediverse

it's an extraordinary claim, but i don't disbelieve it. has anyone else heard anything about this?

Apparently there was a secret meeting between admins of big Fedi instances and Meta, closed under an NDA, and of course they're not saying anything.

https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/110548174843564104 (Now deleted even from Internet Archive)

https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/110548129223290575

https://universeodon.com/@supernovae/110521648872299829

Somebody already made a pact to publicly commit admins to block Meta

Now we see why concentrating users on big instances is a liability

Update: Supernaut directly stated that he hasn't been contacted or attended a meeting, and went further to set up a page to visualize instances entering the Anti-Meta Fedipact

I was wondering, did I miss the federated authentication service? When a user has a mastadon account on one of the federated services, it is possible to follow and post on mastodon, react on lemmy and follow lemmy users, but creating a lemmy post isn't possible. When a user has a lemmy account, interaction with mastodon is possible, but to follow you need a mastodon account.

Isn't there an authentication service, so you can create user@fediverse.domain and interact wuth all services?

What is a Fediverse Galaxy?

As more and more instances are providing multiple services under the same management, we need a term to talk about this type of arrangement. A Fediverse Galaxy is a collection of federated software that is provided by the same admin or collective.

[posted to the @fediverse Lemmy group]
#fediverse #FediverseGalaxies #FediDev

[Test post]

Tetris-Two, testing Pleroma connectivity...

@fediverse

[Test post] Can I post to #Lemmy from #Mastodon by mentioning @fediverse sublemmy?

Let's see if it works...

Right now I'm using the Lemmy Modern UI extension from the Firefox WebStore. What are some others I should get as well?

I've been wondering about this for a couple of days. Having users-only instances could help with moderation and content visualization (think in beehaws.org pulling the plug on lemmy.world), while giving the freedom to different communities mods to treat their content as they want.

This would lend to three levels of administration/moderation.

1. At community level: Mods can let their communities be run as they want
2. At content-server level: By letting content-server admins run their instances with their own ethos. Letting people from certain users-only instances post, while other only read, and others are simply blocked.
3. At users level: By letting users-only server's admin to let their users access certain instances that are aligned with their own interest (no-porn instances, no-nsfw instances, etc.)

This can lead to a kind of meta-db, where instances can declare their ethos, and then be automatically peered, or automatically severed.

I think that the main benefit for this is that it's easier for newcomers to visualize. While having mixed instances removes redundancies, having this separation allows for more streamlined experience for the users.

Proposing that Lemmy or Kbin could substitute for Reddit while not acknowledging that lack of search makes it impossible to find the appropriate groups in a decentralized maze of servers is very on-brand for the Mastodon crowd.
#search #reddit #federated
@fediverse

Tried to search around it theres either stuff too vague or I wasn't able to find it. Simply looking to host my own instance for myself and my friends to join and communicate with other instances.

Try it, when I search [!functionalprint@kbin.social](/c/functionalprint@kbin.social) on the search bar, there are no results, but the community of https://kbin.social/m/functionalprint is very clearly there, and are both a part of the fediverse. What's going on?

Here's the article

https://www.androidauthority.com/reddit-alternatives-lemmy-3335429/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic%2Freddit

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/212952

I noticed I wasn't able to find my community on your communities search, because no one on your instance has searched it yet. I'd appreciate if someone could give my instance a search just to federate it on your instance :) And of course, sub if you're interested in cinematography, movies, behind the scenes, etc.

!cinematography@lemmy.world

If you happen to be a 1st Assistant Camera in the film industry, I've also made a community for us focus pullers (but all camera department are welcome)

!focuspuller@lemmy.world

Thanks for reading :)

So r/startrek opened their subreddit back up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/startrek/comments/14aifzm/rstartrek_reddit_and_the_future/

But they’re still committed to their #Lemmy instance too. Interesting experiment, running dual communities on both sides.

@fediverse @fediversenews

Examples:

• Mastodon could use the up down reddit style boost/like buttons
• Just giving stylistic differences to services is less important (but end users love it) as it is easier to implement …
• Certain aspects are a nightmare of complexity for end users, for example taking followers to new instances should be automatic, then give users the option to unsubscribe, downvote etc
• User simplicity is the strength of the centralised twitter, reddit etc … until the content pushing/commercial payback of bubble bursting overvaluations …

Apple is currently featuring two Safari Extensions for Mastodon in the App Store

Homecoming (https://underpassapp.com/homecoming) by @lapcatsoftware
Mastodon Air (https://mastodonair.com) by @magnus

[posted in @fediverse)

[FEDIVERSE: 15 years of federated social media] a new book by Rita Barrachina

@titi announced the book here: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fedilibro-fontokodo-fedibook-source-code/3267 and also mentioned that its fully opensource and if anyone is interested in translating it into a languge other then Catalan the source is listed above.

[also posting this to the @fediverse community on Lemmy]

EDIT: I know many people have a knee-jerk aversion to anything crypto, but this is not a scheme to make money. I would be happy to see this done with fiat as well, but IMO this is much easier to do with smart contracts.

I am very excited about the possibility of the Fediverse, and the potential for many experiments in instance governance. A problem that all instances must content with is trolling and spam. It seems very difficult to impose a cost on these bad actors without harming honest users as well. Either instances have minimal signup friction and are vulnerable to being overwhelmed with bad actors & defederated (see the recent defederation decision from Beehaw), or they present frustrating barriers such as manual approval or waitlists for folks who just want to have fun

A possible solution comes from the blockchain space, which has been dealing with anonymous bad actors since its inception. Many blockchains and blockchain apps require users to stake some asset in order to gain certain privileges (basically a deposit). If the user is determined to be a bad actor, they lose some or all of their stake.

An instance could be integrated with a smart contract to manage membership could be very effective at dissuading trolls and spammers. A user could stake a small amount of money (say $10) in order to create an account on the instance. This could be done very quickly and would require no manual approval from admins. If the admins determine they are acting poorly, they could ban the user and slash their funds. If an honest user decides they don't want to stay on the instance, they could delete their account and recover their deposit.

(EDIT: An important part of this is that the funds are destroyed when slashed, not given to the admins or mods. This prevents a profit incentive to ban)

I've got a prototype smart contract for this. Would be interested in working with someone on this if there's anyone with experience with the instance management

Or something like that idk I'm not an expert