For those that have poked around other fediverse stuff beyond Lemmy, and been around the spaces awhile, what's stuck out to you as stumbling blocks, or basic user experience fumbles? Which parts do you think may be technical, and which may be cultural?

Is it possible to send private messages from lemmy to mastodon or other fediverse apps

I tried it using voyager and didn't recieve any messages from mastodon see screenshots Is it possible to send end to end messages from lemmy?

 If not how would .sup work (The fediverse im by pixelfed). Any guess how would they implement encryption

Anyways i'm waiting for sup and their suprises : )

When joining or returning to a service with potentially hundreds of servers, it's possible to get mixed-up about what part of the network you joined on. Pixelfed has a handy new feature to put you on the right path again.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.basedcount.com/post/114721

My humble takes on the most popular Lemmy instances, or "how to piss off the whole Fediverse with a single meme".

Here are the links to each one of the mentioned instances:

Far Left	Centre Left	Centre Right	Far Right
Lemmygrad			Exploding Heads
Hexbear	Lemmy.ml	Lemmy.world
Beehaw	Pricefield Lemmy	Based Count	sh.itjust.works
Blåhaj Lemmy	Divisions by zero	Lemmy NSFW	Hack Liberty

Reinvestment

Regardless of where the loss in users is coming from the major takeaway here is that we are firmly in a reinvestment phase. This will likely last until Reddit does something stupid related to the IPO but in the absence of that we will probably not see a significant uptick in growth again without major improvements to the threadiverse as a whole. That means that those of us who are personally invested in the growth of the threadiverse should be taking this time to develop the tools and features necessary to weather the next wave more gracefully than the last.

Niche Community Growth

One of the biggest issue I see here is still community growth. Growing certain communities is significantly harder than others and if you don’t have a lot of crossposting potential it can be damn near impossible. As it stands, I do not see a way to fix this situation without a hot and active ranking system that takes into account the number of users active in the particular community. As part of a change like this I think we would be best served by consolidating a significant portion of the small dead communities. I think we should also strongly prefer specialized instances like lemmy.film or literature.cafe to truly take advantage of the special attention these sorts of instances are capable of providing particular topics. As it stands only a handful of them have enough broader threadiverse activity to be truly useful.

Recruiting From Mastodon

At this point it seems like we are unlikely to pull a significant amount of users from Reddit without more reddit-policy-driven migration, but there are tons of highly educated and engaged users over on Mastodon that would make serious positive contributions to the tone and quality of the discourse over here. For some reason there seems to be minimal overlap between the two communities and that blows my mind. Not only that but I actively see folks disparaging Mastodon in fediverse related communities on a regular basis (and even sometimes in the Mastodon communities themselves). As far as I can tell, these are largely lingering sentiments from a Reddit/Twitter dichotomy. Remember, as things develop the lines between threaded social media and microblogging are likely to blur. A significant number of Mastodon apps already provide a threaded view and one of kbins explicit goals is very much to bridge the gap. With this in mind, Mastodon (and federated microblogging more generally) seems like the best source for new potential users.

TLDR

TL;DR: What I’d like to particularly emphasize here is the focus on Mastodon user recruitment. They are far more likely to both improve the quality of discourse here and contribute to community building than your average reddit user. Not to mention they can already be active from their existing accounts. The barrier for entry is nil. I think a valid strat to go about this is to advertise existing specialized instances to their existing equivalent communities on the microblogging fediverse. This solves both the problems of growing the specialized instances from 0 and making their discourse substantially different enough to warrant specialized instances in the first place. Things like:

• #bookstodon to literature.cafe
• #monsterdon to lemmy.film
• #climateemergency to slrpnk.net
• #histodon to some equivalent of ask historians (This is probably the only way we’d get the experts needed)
• Any of the many art tags to lemmyloves.art

Hello everyone,

Opening this thread as a kind of follow-up on my thread yesterday about the drop in monthly active users on !fediverse@lemmy.ml.

As I pointed in the thread, I personally think that having some consolidated core communities would be a better solution for content discovery, information being posted only once, and overall community activity.

One of the examples of the issue of having two (or more) exactly similar Fediverse communities (!fediverse@lemmy.world and !fediverse@lemmy.ml ) is that is leads to

• people having to subscribe to both to see the content
• posters having to crosspost to both
• comment being spread across the crossposts instead of having all of the discussion and reactions happening in the same place.

I am very well aware of the decentralized aspect of Lemmy being one of its core features, but it seems that it can be detrimental when the co-existing communities are exactly the same.

We are talking about different news seen from the US or Europe, or a piece of news discussed in places with different political orientations.

The two Fediverse communities look identical, there is no specific editorial line. The difference in the audience is due to the federation decisions of the instances, but that's pretty much it, and as the topic of the community is the Fediverse itself, the community should probably be the one accessible from most of the Fediverse users.

What do you think?

Also, as a reminder, please be respectful in the comments, it's either one of the rules of the community or the instance. Disagreeing is fine, but no need to be disrespectful.

It is probably due to a number of people stopping using their alts after some instance hopping.

Also a few people who came to see how it was, and weren't attracted enough to become regular visitors.

Curious to see at which number we'll stabilize.

Next peak will probably happen after either major features release (e.g. exhaustive mod tools allowing reluctant communities to move from Reddit) or the next Reddit fuck up (e.g. removing old.reddit)

Stats on each server: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

Title. I remember community flairs from the red betrayer and they where immensely useful to me to determine info about others configurations etc. are they something lemmy has discussed adding? If not why?

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/3715524

The beta for groups will release later this week, which won't be federated initially. Federation will be added afterwards.

Looks like it will have some interesting features like videos, polls, and events, as well as moderator tools like limiting what a user can do.

Some links:

https://mastodon.social/@dansup/110931821965407984

https://mastodon.social/@pixelfed/110931868347117511

https://mastodon.social/@pixelfed/110931984467276917

https://mastodon.social/@pixelfed/110932004988109773

A new messaging app is in development, and the project is described as "an open source WhatsApp for the Fediverse."

Also see this discussion: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-0837-federated-marketplace/3501

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/2491711

I was wondering if there was a community where admins of different instances got together and chat in general about decisions for how they run their instances.

Sort of like an informal U.N. for Lemmy admins.

I posted a bit ago on a different account, and yeah here we are. I actually set it up!

Federation Policy

There are some instances that have been initially defederated from, most of which are just are either toxic or host illegal content across the fediverse. Defederation will only be reserved for spaces that present consistent moderation problems, host illegal content, or are hate filled. Whenever a defederation is considered a post will be made to discuss and gather community input.

Instance Management

So, same deal as over on literature.cafe. If this instance ever needs to go down, I will give at least a 30 day warning prior and make a good faith attempt to keep the instance online as well as be transparent as to why a shutdown is being considered. A financial statement will be posted monthly. This instance will likely cost more than literature.cafe long term, so if you are planning on joining and are able to donate it is greatly appreciated. I also take daily secure backups.

I am attempting to find at least one extra admin for the instance as well, but I at least plan on having a backup "break the glass" admin account like I do have on literature.cafe

Community Creation

Community creation is currently disabled and is only for admins. This may be reconsidered in the future, but if you want a new community to be made please go to !requests@lemmyloves.art and request there. For those on other instances who want to view a current list of communities go to !411@lemmyloves.art

Right now due email functionality on the instance is busted due to the host blocking the ports temporarily until the first invoice is generated for the instance. So, remember your password if you sign up for the time being or just ask to have your password reset if you forget it.

I've been running my self-hosted one user Pleroma (like Mastodon) instance. When I discovered Lemmy I started following some communities from it and also posted some comments.

Since then lemmy.ml makes one request per second to my /inbox url.

Can someone who knows ActivityPub explain why is necessary one request per second always? What are all these POST requests for?

On top of that, is there any way to tell a server or a relay to stop sending information to my inbox? Like if for example I followed someone in that server, but I don't follow them anymore, is there any way to tell the remote server to stop? If I start returning a 403 or something like that will it stop?

I just discovered https://baraza.africa/, which is an African focused instance.

Quite interesting to me as I'm not that familiar with that continent.

https://fanaticus.social/ is interesting to follow professional sports

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.basedcount.com/post/113726

I couldn't find any tools to check this, so I built one myself.

This is a little site I built: the Defederation Investigator defed.xyz. With it, you can get a comprehensive view of which instances have blocked yours, as well as which ones you are federated with.

The tool is open source and available on GitHub. Hopefully someone will find it useful, enjoy.

I was never extremely active on Mastodon until recently but I followed it's development relatively closely from its infancy. And I will say that it's really strange to watch lemmy face nearly identical issues that Mastodon did when it was in a similar development stages. (Though, some of the drama thus far have been essentially a speedrun of what mastodon went thru over a gradual amount of time.)

The fediverse as a whole is essentially a return to the Internets roots, and with that comes new problems that OG internet communities did not have to grapple with due to the changes the internet has faced in the past few years alone. When building communities, most large internet communities have been largely corporate since the rapid centralization of the internet of the mid 2000s. There is truly no blueprint for this, and the volunteers that are making these communities from scratch are going to make mistakes (as we have already witnessed more than once, even this week alone.)

A large issue that has resulted from the corporate centralization of the internet that is really hard to break from is the expectation of an extremely smooth streamlined experience on emerging platforms like lemmy from new users. And you aren't going to get that in these early days. You just aren't. Things are going to be messy, we are just getting our feet on the ground. And this results in a lot of frustration and just generally a feeling of walking on thin ice with a user base that has been largely built initially from the exodus of an already established platform. To many regular lemmy users there's this expectation that tends to be "well, if other social media platforms can do it, why can't we?" and to admins and those building these communities it can be frustrating and feel like the users are being entitled to things that just aren't possible from volunteers at this time.

With recent drama and inter community issues, the honeymoon phase of this place is officially ending and how we move forward is entirely dependent on how we respond as a community as well as what people using this platform as a whole want from it. You get what you put in.

I don't say this to discount the drama that lemmy has faced these past few weeks but if you honestly think that this place has been toxic so far, the early days of Mastodon would have seemed like pure hell in comparison. Early Mastodon drama was like, doxxings, entire instance admins quite literally being chasing off their own sites over petty nonsense, things like that. It was bad. Really bad. And despite the existence of fedidrama, that stuff has stabilized. Why? Because the community stabilized and gradually formed their own cultures and the community volunteers building communities learned from their mistakes. People moved to smaller communities and stopped being hostile to decentralization. The necessity of defederation was embraced by most who began to understand its importance.

Some of the biggest issues lemmy has right now aren't easy to solve, but we have a blueprint to what solutions worked and what didn't from Mastodon. There's also the issue with lemmy having a generally different culture from Mastodon, and that's OK. We want our own community identity, not the same as Reddit or Mastodon or Twitter. In many ways that is already being built as well.

Right now, the biggest thing is just sticking with this place and persevering the growing pains. It is so easy to get burnt out, and the Mastodon instances that got too big for the admins to actually deal with are clear examples of that. I know it's easy to look at recent events and feel disappointment as well as feel that just generally the most toxic Redditors migrated over, but doing that is just giving up before we even began. If you used Mastodon in it's early days, it fucking sucked so bad. We have a leg up here that it's overall easier to navigate communities and discussions out of the box (and with the current development, it's only going to get better.)

In essence, what woud you say lemmy is? A way to have all your old forum subscriptions in one place in the form of communies?

Or is there something else I'm missing?

Is there a way to follow lemmy communities in usenet, a bit like there is gwane for rss and gmane for mailing lists?

I've made an open source tool for scheduling posts to Lemmy, you can find it at https://schedule.lemmings.world. It can be used by users from any instance and it can be self-hosted if you wish so!

Changes since the last time I posted about it:

• you can now login with 2FA enabled
• you can schedule pin and unpin of posts in a community if you're the mod
• you can schedule pin and unpin of posts in an instance if you're the admin
• when creating a post, you can choose to pin it to the community (if you're a mod)
• you can choose the language of your posts
• an official support community has been created at !schedule@lemmings.world
• you can post the same post into multiple communities easily, just select the communities and multiple scheduled posts will be created

Let me know what you think!

i migrated from mastodon to firefish recently, and now i'm thinking of moving back to mastodon on account of the shit mobile support firefish has. is this possible?

I want to know how to use the Antenna feature of Firefish to customize my feed and see more relevant content based on the topics I like, how to follow lemmy communities, how to post on lemmy and vote posts/comments on lemmy from there. Is there a documentation where I can learn about that?

I would like to be able to choose how much I want to see of the topics I like. What platform offers something similar to Bluesky customizable feeds but in the fediverse?