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That was the moment of the debate for me. It all could've been argued OK he's old OK he's got a speech impediment but what the fuck is the big fentanyl machine they roll across the border supposed to fucking mean holy shit

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a caveat that maybe state and municipal government is still somewhat democratically functional, like at that low level enough of the day to day of administering people's lives is delegated to actual democratic authority maybe

but then i look at stuff like the debate (i didn't actually watch the debate i respect myself too much) and i look at how stuff happens and how it like doesn't seem to matter at all who is in power for the average person. Like it's pretty obvious that there is corporate and wealth buy-in for domestic policy, and think tanks and stuff that set a social agenda to some degree, and I guess the democratic apparatus serves to enable that buy-in, but on the federal level it really feels like voting happens at all merely to provide a democratic legitimacy to stuff that's actually decided entirely by unelected bureaucrats and moneyed interests that are either employed by the state or privately, right?

everything connected to voting is there to give social consent right? if you vote you assent to the legitimacy of the government - and this is like, its sole function? because if not enough people did that, and people actually didn't believe in the legitimacy of the government, there might actually be a problem I guess?

Like how can we think it actually matters which of these guys [the goo brain prez candidates] ends up elected from the pov of an average person? womens and queer rights are dissolving before our eyes regardless in most places, labor rights movements get stomped the fuck out the second they start to do anything interesting, and the few state bastions of safety come from the fact that local governments still sometimes represent citizen priority in some limited sense.

like foreign policy is gonna be the exact same in most cases, like there's no voting mechanism that will end the genocide in gaza - there's no mechanism to get the MIC to stop bombing random places and sending demonic spec ops raids wherever, nor will the steady stream of funds that go into toppling any government that so much as hesitates in its fealty to the us - so ideas that democracy is the answer is meaningfuly deluded, right?

federal politics feels like a really boring kind of WWE thing where the stage are national elections and their personalities and horse races, the kayfabe is the idea that a vote translates into anything meaningful other than the governed consenting to the process, whereas WWE's actual function as entertainment and a RNC pipeline is somewhat obvious, liberals are an entire class of people who actually stake their identity on its sincere legitimacy.

I know this post is long and probably sucks, but this all reeks to me and I'm so tired of seeing people care when the actual options for positive change are narrow, unpleasant, and sometimes illegal to voice.

I want people to disengage, start building parallel structures and outright refusing to live as if this farce is legitimate and even if i'm wrong about the particulars, that feels unreproachably noble and needed.

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Biden campaign HQ hype campaign after the debate:

Biden comes out seemingly completely unaware of where he is, while his wife talks to him like a dog.

Jill Biden: "Joe, you did such a good job! You answered every question! You knew all the facts!"

(He absolutely did not, of course)

Doesn't let him respond, just let's him grin mindlessly, while she tries to whip up thr base about the fact that Trump lied.

Biden's face goes back to confusion when the crowd stop cheering and shout "lie" about Trump as though he has no idea who or what they're talking about.

Video Here Apologies for the chud twitter link, it was the only easy clip I could find

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Sorry, people

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covid-cool

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Hey there Joey what're you doin there wi-

LISTEN HERE FAT

extinction

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No real answers or policy proposals, blaming every problem on migrants (while Biden's policy on the border is largely a continuation of Trump's), just a bunch of bullshit "everything was great, now everything sucks, but I will make it great again". I honestly cringed at Trump more, Biden's ramblings at least were funny.

I can't imagine anyone who's undecided at this point listen to this and say "This guy will make things right". Trump's entire objective is to let Biden stumble and fall and then cruise to presidency, but he makes every effort imaginable to prevent himself from it. No zingers or clever retorts against a literal corpse (aside from maybe one "I don't know what he said and he isn't either"), just and abysmal performance. Honestly, even someone like Ramaswami would've dogwalked Biden.

If anyone is capable of losing to Biden at this point, it's Trump.

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Utterly fucking incredible. No one said anything, posted any memes. He just posted this out of the blue. Just fucking incredible. They will march in to hell screaming at everyone around them for not voting hard enough. Like just what the fuck is this? Who is this for, now, in 2024, after this debate? What do they think posting this bullshit will accomplish? Biden just spent 90 minutes shitting himself on stage and failing to finish sentences and their immediate move is to scold people before they even start saying the emperor has no clothes?

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not even mentioning twitter in the title because it's a given

lol, eat shit kidfucker ceos

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I need Biden sundowning highlights set to The Ecstasy of Gold right fucking now

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Jesus fuck v

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